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View Poll Results: What should schools teach about sex education?
Abstinence is only choice 1 2.63%
Having sex is only choice 1 2.63%
Abstinence is best but some will have sex so birth control 13 34.21%
This shouldn't be taught in school at all 5 13.16%
Both sides 7 18.42%
This is why I dislike the public school system 2 5.26%
Keep it strictly on biological functions, like menstruation 14 36.84%
Other (explain) 5 13.16%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 38. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-09-2015, 01:48 PM
 
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you have a link to support your idea women get pregnant in their 20's so they can be on welfare, or is that just a guess on your part?

you want to stigmatize women because they are unmarried and pregnant. how Christian of you.
Well since 54% of all babies are born on medicaid that would say I'm onto something.

 
Old 02-09-2015, 01:56 PM
 
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Teaching that there are multiple ways to avoid pregnancy, how statistically effective each method is, and what each method entails is objective and instructive.

Giving an opinion on which one (if any) a person should employ is subjective, moral sermonizing, thus it has no place in the public sphere. At a parochial school, give the Catholic Church's teachings of course, as they are the boss and the school is private. at home, same thing. Mom and Dad are boss, so their opinion is the guiding principle. But the separation of church and state has two sides, and if one must keep religion/family out of state, then stae can stay the fark out of religion/family.

Teach biology, fine. Teach hedonistic moral sermonizing to a captive audience and misuse authority in the public sphere? Not so fine.

So sex ed should be no more than biology of the human reproductive system. Leave the rest to Mom & Dad.
 
Old 02-09-2015, 02:04 PM
 
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Teaching that there are multiple ways to avoid pregnancy, how statistically effective each method is, and what each method entails is objective and instructive.

Giving an opinion on which one (if any) a person should employ is subjective, moral sermonizing, thus it has no place in the public sphere. At a parochial school, give the Catholic Church's teachings of course, as they are the boss and the school is private. at home, same thing. Mom and Dad are boss, so their opinion is the guiding principle. But the separation of church and state has two sides, and if one must keep religion/family out of state, then stae can stay the fark out of religion/family.

Teach biology, fine. Teach hedonistic moral sermonizing to a captive audience and misuse authority in the public sphere? Not so fine.

So sex ed should be no more than biology of the human reproductive system. Leave the rest to Mom & Dad.
True. Reminds me of a school (can't remember if it was high school or college)that was teaching orgasm and bondage. That doesn't belong in school, period.
 
Old 02-09-2015, 02:05 PM
 
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Well since 54% of all babies are born on medicaid that would say I'm onto something.
Those babies are being born to women in their 20's- average age almost 26.

Perhaps they and their partners forgot what they learned in school.
 
Old 02-09-2015, 02:06 PM
 
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Well since 54% of all babies are born on medicaid that would say I'm onto something.
Medicaid is available to low income FAMILIES. Yep, married people are on medicaid too. Pregnant women fall into the "categorically needy" regardless of marital status if the family is at 133% of the poverty level.
Pregnant women fall into the "medically needy" category, regardless of marital status, if they do not have insurance during pregnancy and make too much to qualify for "categorically needy" group.

Medicaid for Pregnant Women | American Pregnancy Association


Being on pregnancy medicaid does not mean the woman is single or that she is eligible for any other welfare.
 
Old 02-09-2015, 02:07 PM
 
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Teaching that there are multiple ways to avoid pregnancy, how statistically effective each method is, and what each method entails is objective and instructive.

Giving an opinion on which one (if any) a person should employ is subjective, moral sermonizing, thus it has no place in the public sphere. At a parochial school, give the Catholic Church's teachings of course, as they are the boss and the school is private. at home, same thing. Mom and Dad are boss, so their opinion is the guiding principle. But the separation of church and state has two sides, and if one must keep religion/family out of state, then stae can stay the fark out of religion/family.

Teach biology, fine. Teach hedonistic moral sermonizing to a captive audience and misuse authority in the public sphere? Not so fine.

So sex ed should be no more than biology of the human reproductive system. Leave the rest to Mom & Dad.
Cause mom and dad did such a great job before schools closed the gap?
 
Old 02-09-2015, 02:07 PM
 
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Those babies are being born to women in their 20's- average age almost 26.

Perhaps they and their partners forgot what they learned in school.
Or more than likely decided to use welfare instead of birth control.
 
Old 02-09-2015, 02:08 PM
 
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True. Reminds me of a school (can't remember if it was high school or college)that was teaching orgasm and bondage. That doesn't belong in school, period.
It was college and it wasn't a regular course, but a seminar by an outside group that was completely voluntary.
 
Old 02-09-2015, 02:11 PM
 
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It was college and it wasn't a regular course, but a seminar by an outside group that was completely voluntary.
But was it paid for by tax dollars or student dollars or something else? in the first two cases that is horrible. If a group decided to hold this seminar and others didn't pay then it's okay.
 
Old 02-09-2015, 02:15 PM
 
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But was it paid for by tax dollars or student dollars or something else? in the first two cases that is horrible. If a group decided to hold this seminar and others didn't pay then it's okay.
It was paid for by student fees. There are all kinds of events paid for with student fees like plays, concerts, dances, religious events, campus runs, etc. Not everyone goes to any of them, but the fees pay for them all.
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