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Old 02-11-2015, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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If it wasn't for the USofA you're beloved Canada would be overrun by Mexicans. Without the USofA Canada wouldn't survive.
We would do just fine without you. Australia and new Zealand do and we are not much different than they are.
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Old 02-12-2015, 12:51 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, LA
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If it wasn't for the USofA you're beloved Canada would be overrun by Mexicans. Without the USofA Canada wouldn't survive.
We depend on China for all of our cheap goods because Americans don't make enough to buy anything "Made in the USA" anymore. Get off your high horse.
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Old 02-12-2015, 05:11 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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A grand jury does not rule on guilt or innocents. They only rule if enough evidence to bring case to trial. It does not set anything as each is decide on the provable evidence.
You are correct, but it does send a message to the police and the legal system in general.
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Old 02-12-2015, 05:19 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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This is a tragedy for the cop but good news for society. I would feel much safer if we had 90% fewer SWAT personnel. I suspect that 90% of the no knock SWAT raids could have been easily handled without violence.

But once again, the blame is on our EVIL war on drugs. Without the war on drugs, this would have never happened.
Right and they seem to use swat raids more and more for the most minor situations.
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Old 02-12-2015, 05:28 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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You do not understand the entire concept of "Progressive". Actually advancing the power of a central government is regressive not progressive. Progressive is actual measures brought into law and not how those measures are implemented.

The Canada healthcare act is good example of a progressive measure. This act insures a high quality of healthcare for all citizens and residents of this country. The act actually decentralizes power to the provinces and territories.There is no large federal bureaucracy involved in it. The provinces then create at arms length corporations to run their healthcare regions, again keeping the government out of the healthcare business.

The reason "progressive" has become a bad word in the USA is simple. In the USA everything is politicized.
Some Senator or some congressional committee wants the "POWER" and the patronage connected to that, by actually presiding over some massive government programme. The results of that are very plain to see. Incompetence, corruption, nepotism, political pay backs, etc. The end result is always very inferior service at a grossly inflated cost. Just contemplate the Walter Reid fiasco for a minute and you can understand what I mean.

You know, over the years there has been a lot of discussion about the USA creating a Canadian style universal healthcare system. The USA could not have such a system because they are incapable of running such a system. It would just end up as a massive boondoggle riddled with corruption and incompetence.
In the U.S. politicians scratch each others back to often, no wonder spending grows out of control.
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Old 02-12-2015, 05:35 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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Of course you don't care! The USA is incapable of learning anything from anyone.
No, it just seems every time a Canadian posts here, it always includes a derogatory statement about America. As far as the Canadian health care system, you can keep it. I have great private health care that allows for choices.
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Old 02-12-2015, 05:40 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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UNFORTUNATELY IT REALLY SEEMS TO B E THE TRUTH. The lessons of Vietnam should have prevented a knee jerk attack against Iraq, but it didn't. A full century of the spoils system in US politics should have taught about the danger of political corruption and patronage, but it didn't. The golden age should have taught the country about the dangers of huge corporate combinations but it didn't.

It is certainly not a useless or juvenile post. As the USA steadily sinks into a multitude of Morasses it's essential that the people understand the need for major reform to reverse the tide towards chaos.
You had better hope the U.S. doesn't sink, because if it does, we're taking Canada with us.
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Old 02-12-2015, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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THAT is the problem. They've started using no-knock warrants for everything from something as mundane as traffic warrants to murderers. It makes no sense!

The last time I checked, it's completely unconstitutional and smacks of something out of Nazi Germany.

Bill puts limits on no-knock warrants | www.ajc.com

There are bills coming down the pike to start limiting them. There has been way too many innocent people hurt or killed in these ridiculous raids.


Yeah, but that takes all the fun out of it.
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Old 02-12-2015, 06:13 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Yeah, but that takes all the fun out of it.
That may sound like sarcasm...but its the truth. The vols have all this heavy hitting hardware now, and they want yo use it. Why just knock on the door when you can put on a Ninja suit, toss a grenade and run in, blasting away with an M4 or MP5? I mean, hey, gonna SHOW these citizens that they WILL have "respect" for the badge. But fear is just as good..maybe better.

All they need is one POd neighbor, who doesn't like you, to say be saw you smoking a doob on your back porch, and we can Mick in your door, kill everyone inside, and sieze all property for the State or City. You won't be around to object.

In this.case, I'm VERY surprised this guy wasn't shot 300 times, and his GF too. That's what usually happens, especially in bungled SWAT raids. It the "suspect" is dead, the cops always get cleared, and the cop apollvists a say "that's what you get when you shoot at cops". That the resident had NO idea that they were cops doesn't matter. Yon should know that. Why should the cops do something like, say, identify themselves? Aren't the Ninja suits and automatic weapons a dead giveaway?
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Old 02-12-2015, 06:50 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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maybe cops should do some investigating and find out if the tips they get from CI's are true before they go off and do a no knock warrant on someones home.
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