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Old 02-10-2015, 11:09 PM
 
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And there you libs go generalizing again.

Conservatives don't want war. But they recognize that you can't always have peace. You can't hold hands and sing kumbayah with people who are trying to kill you because you don't believe what they do. Some people recognize that we have to face reality and can't always live in a politically-correct dream world.
And there you go generalizing because I'm not a lib. Conservatives will always put war ahead of peace. Just think, if we didn't go to war with the middle east and mined own business, none of this would be happening

 
Old 02-10-2015, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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If you believe in making the world a better place and in liberal values--equality for women, LGBT rights, freedom of religion, the right to vote, etc--sitting around pretending that everything is good in the world isn't the way to go about it. You should be actively trying to get involved. And violence certainly isn't always the best way, but sometimes there's no other choice. What happened to the courageous liberals from back during the Civil Rights era who went out and protested injustices instead of saying "it's none of our business, let's not get involved"?
 
Old 02-10-2015, 11:19 PM
 
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I'm a bleeding heart liberal who often gnashes my teeth over the various actions of Congress, the Supreme Court, and the President.

But even above family and friends, I revere the Constitution. I hold it sacred and I am in awe that I get to live under its protective umbrella. I'd gladly give my life to defend it.

I don't think I'm any more or less patriotic than any random conservative.
 
Old 02-10-2015, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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If you believe in making the world a better place and in liberal values--equality for women, LGBT rights, freedom of religion, the right to vote, etc--sitting around pretending that everything is good in the world isn't the way to go about it. You should be actively trying to get involved. And violence certainly isn't always the best way, but sometimes there's no other choice. What happened to the courageous liberals from back during the Civil Rights era who went out and protested injustices instead of saying "it's none of our business, let's not get involved"?
Sure, there is no other choice when the first choice is to bomb another country. That seems to be right wing logic in a nutshell.
 
Old 02-10-2015, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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I'm just really, genuinely curious. OK, some liberals do love this country, sure. But seriously, I've never heard or seen a conservative say things like "9/11 happened because we meddled in other countries' affairs; we deserved it" or "we need to make peace with the radicals and try to understand them"...nor have I heard conservatives say things like "our troops are the real terrorists" or "they don't protect our freedom"...I have just ONE question for you libs that say things like this--why do you still live here? If you really hate America that much, just leave and go to your beloved ****hole extremist or communist countries like China, Syria, DR of Congo or Venezuela.

And I bet you think right wing conservatives like those in Texas that openly talk treasonous secession talk are true patriotic Americans.
 
Old 02-10-2015, 11:46 PM
 
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Because Liberals are essentially Commies and Marxists. No Commie or Marxist is a true patriot because they are group think drones, Big Government socialists, they are essentially Statists, they pledge allegiance to Big Gubmint and the bureaucracy, not the the country.

Why don't you explain exactly what is "the country"? Is that some land free of all government, laws and regulations?
 
Old 02-10-2015, 11:46 PM
 
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And there you libs go generalizing again.
*huge spittake* Thank you. I love comedy when coming home from work.

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Conservatives don't want war. But they recognize that you can't always have peace. You can't hold hands and sing kumbayah with people who are trying to kill you because you don't believe what they do. Some people recognize that we have to face reality and can't always live in a politically-correct dream world.
 
Old 02-11-2015, 12:15 AM
 
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And I bet you think right wing conservatives like those in Texas that openly talk treasonous secession talk are true patriotic Americans.
I repped you because I agree the OP probably does think so.

But as a decades long TX resident with scores of conservative family and friends, I have to say I've never met a single Texan who talks, much less advocates, secession.
 
Old 02-11-2015, 12:22 AM
 
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I repped you because I agree the OP probably does think so.

But as a decades long TX resident with scores of conservative family and friends, I have to say I've never met a single Texan who talks, much less advocates, secession.
That's a good point, and I think we're susceptible to missing it. We can easily mistake grandstanding politicians as being representative of different groups of people, when in fact, many in these groups do not agree.
 
Old 02-11-2015, 12:31 AM
 
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Have conservatives ever vandalized an ROTC or military recruiting building? Have conservatives ever tried to keep military recruiters from high school or college campuses? Have Republicans ever passed a resolution to tell military recruiters they were unwanted and unwelcome intruders to their city? Have Republican mayors ever stood outside a military recruiting office with a bullhorn telling the recruiters to get out of his city?
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