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Old 02-13-2015, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I don't like him because he is an idiot. I'm black.
Why is he an idiot?
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Old 02-13-2015, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Iowa, Heartland of Murica
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I have friends who believe Asians are bad drivers, they judge based on stereotypes, but I would not call them racists. My friends are not perfect, but they are pleasant, awesome, great people. They are NOT racists at all.
I used to listen to KQRS back when I lived in Minneapolis and they coined the term "immigrant driver".

Kinda politically incorrect but funny nonetheless. So, that stereotype kinda stuck with me. I can't even describe how many times I saw people driving atrociously around the Twin Cities.

I would get really pissed off and always sped up past them to see what they looked like. No BS, 90% of the time they were Hmong or Somali immigrants lol

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Old 02-13-2015, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I used to listen to KQRS back when I lived in Minneapolis and they coined the term "immigrant driver".

Kinda politically incorrect but funny nonetheless. So, that stereotype kinda stuck with me. I can't even describe how many times I saw people driving atrociously around the Twin Cities.

I would get really pissed off and always made the point to speed up past them to see what they looked like. No BS, 90% of the time they were Hmong or Somali immigrants lol
I guess we can all make fun of ourselves sometimes.
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Old 02-13-2015, 10:12 AM
 
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I guess we can all make fun of ourselves sometimes.
Dave Chappell has some of the best commentary on racial stuff I have ever seen. I think humor can go a long way in understanding/ getting along with other people.
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Old 02-13-2015, 10:12 AM
 
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Minorities can have racist views, but can't be "racist" in the societal context. They lack significant political power.



I get so sick of reading/hearing this absurd tripe proffered now and again. Anyone can be a racist by the true definition of the word, not the contrived PC version.

On a side note, and not giving any credence to your absurd notion, when will blacks consider they have "significant political power" in this country?
We have a POTUS and AG both who are not only black, but favor blacks in virtually every decision/policy they come up with. Heck, the term "my people" has actually been uttered as well when speaking to a black audience, so we know what is in their minds regarding race and identity.
Of course if a white person were to utter the exact same words, leftists would consider it racist. But nary a peep from them when blacks do it.

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Old 02-13-2015, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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How can anybody dislike Dr. Ben Carson simply because he is black. I bet most people love him.
They do...........until the addled doctor opens his mouth.
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Old 02-13-2015, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Iowa, Heartland of Murica
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Reverse discrimination is real, Liberals never talked about it but I will give you some examples of where I have seen it:

Northern New Mexico: Some of the towns in Northern New Mexico are 80% Hispanic- the families have been in the area for 8 generations and have deep ties to the area. Good luck finding a job in these places if you are a White man.

El Paso: Good luck finding a job in El Paso if you don't speak Spanish.

Indian reservation towns: One that comes to mind is Pine Ridge, South Dakota. I look kinda Latin and never felt so unwelcome in a place. They can tell right away that you are not a Native. When I visited the Wounded Knee site, I was practically harassed by several Native panhandling children, to the point where I ended up leaving because it was just too much to handle. Very sad place.
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Old 02-13-2015, 10:38 AM
 
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I prefer to focus on solutions rather than blame. The best solution to poverty is education.

And BTW, black people are NOT inherently less of anything and the conservative position on poverty does not assume so.
Yes it does....the conservative position is that basically people are poor as a result of laziness, irresponsibility, poor choice making and the like, relative to the more successful. Since black poverty is 3 times the rate of white poverty and unemployment twice the rate.....the inference is that blacks are lazier, more irresponsible and poor choice makers relative to whites.

Saying what the solution is means that you are placing the blame somewhere.
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Old 02-13-2015, 10:49 AM
 
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Yes it does....the conservative position is that basically people are poor as a result of laziness, irresponsibility, poor choice making and the like, relative to the more successful. Since black poverty is 3 times the rate of white poverty and unemployment twice the rate.....the inference is that blacks are lazier, more irresponsible and poor choice makers relative to whites.

Saying what the solution is means that you are placing the blame somewhere.
Let me ask you a few very non-PC question. Before I do, I am not afflicted by the ills of PC, so don't try to label me a racist for even asking the question, as it will fall on deaf ears.

Do you consider any race of people sharper (i.e. more intelligent) than average?
Do you consider any race of people physically more capable (i.e. better athletically) than the average?
Do you consider any race of people more motivated (i.e. ambitious) than the average?

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Old 02-13-2015, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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Do you agree with this statement? I am not White, I am Lebanese/Italian ethnically, so I usually check Other when they ask me about my race.

I dislike racism and intolerance but when I take a look at my own actions, I am guilty of excluding people from a certain race based on my own experiences and stereotypes.

Heck, I have lost a job once because I used a "racist" term on the phone and it was total slip of the tongue, so when I hear especially White people say that they are not racist , even when they use racial slurs, trust me, I know what they mean.

I am not by any means trying to justify racism and exclusion as acceptable. I am sure I have had it done to me, even though I always give people the benefit of the doubt and I never buy into the whole race card/victim mentality BS.

So, do you think everybody is racist to a certain degree?
No I don't think every one is racist to some degree.

rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm/Submit
noun
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
"a program to combat racism"
synonyms: racial discrimination, racialism, racial prejudice, xenophobia, chauvinism, bigotry, casteism

Based on this definition, most behaviours we call "Racism" are not.

prejudice
If you have a negative attitude towards someone based on race or ethnicity rather than personal experience, you might be accused of prejudice.
Prejudice is remarkably similar to its Latin root in form and meaning; the Latin praejudicium means "judgment in advance." A racial prejudice is a negative attitude towards a group of people based on race — not on direct knowledge or experience. If you prejudice someone, you cause them to have a negative attitude towards someone else. Lawyers are not allowed to bring certain types of evidence such as rumors into a trial because it might prejudice the jury.

Most of we call racism is actually prejudice and although that is not a good thing, it's different and not as horrible and evil as racism.

I will show you the difference. If I feel uncomfortable and suspicious when I meet any Arab, that would be prejudice. I very well might find out this Arab is a really great person and form a friendship with them.

If I dislike or hate all Arabs and will not have a relationship with them, am not interested in getting to know them, wish ill of them, reject that there could be anything good about any Arab then that is racism.
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