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Old 02-15-2015, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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http://downloads.cbn.com/cbnnewsplay....swf?aid=17933

Here's what happens when muslims invade. Unfortunately today there are no Crusades to repel them.
Popes were war monguers who claimed to be working on behalf of Christ. The Crudades were nothing more than politics and a failed land grab. Popes recruited Crusaders by forgiving their past, present and future sins.

The Crusaders raped, pillaged and robbed their way across Europe and parts of Asia and Northern Africa.
They targeted Jews and Muslims, alike. They targeted Europeans who opposed them. ISIS pales in comparison to the atrocities against mankind that the Crusaders perpetuated.

After 200 years the Crusades ended and the church retreated.

Obama's use of the Crusades was a tad goofy although it was spot on in terms of a distant historical analogy, global terrorists using religion as a tool to achieve outcomes that had nothing to do with religion and all to do with politics and power.

Most people have no concept of the Crusades and many, especially Catholics, seem to believe the Crusaders were the good guys who won the 200 year war against Muslims and Jews. Reality is the opposite.

 
Old 02-15-2015, 08:32 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Popes were war monguers who claimed to be working on behalf of Christ. The Crudades were nothing more than politics and a failed land grab. Popes recruited Crusaders by forgiving their past, present and future sins.

The Crusaders raped, pillaged and robbed their way across Europe and parts of Asia and Northern Africa.
They targeted Jews and Muslims, alike. They targeted Europeans who opposed them. ISIS pales in comparison to the atrocities against mankind that the Crusaders perpetuated.

After 200 years the Crusades ended and the church retreated.

Obama's use of the Crusades was a tad goofy although it was spot on in terms of a distant historical analogy, global terrorists using religion as a tool to achieve outcomes that had nothing to do with religion and all to do with politics and power.

Most people have no concept of the Crusades and many, especially Catholics, seem to believe the Crusaders were the good guys who won the 200 year war against Muslims and Jews. Reality is the opposite.
You are a good dhimmi.
 
Old 02-15-2015, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The Muslims didn't invade, they were invited in by European morons.

I've given up on Europe, the people there are ball-less and delusional. Completely taken over by Jewish finance capitalism, and its media/government multiculturalism propaganda arm. Those people are incapable of thinking for themselves. They are sheep, even worse than American sheep.

Its even more embarrassing that in many countries in Europe, they have laws against "hate-speech"(IE strongly criticizing this invasion), and even laws against questioning the holocaust. Let alone publicly displaying any number of symbols associated with ethnic-nationalism. So let me reiterate my point, Europe is completely ball-less.
Could you please explain what you are referring to as "Jewish finance capitalism?" and how that is responsible for creating a large population of Muslims in European countries?
 
Old 02-15-2015, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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The liberals always play up the Crusades to be such a terrible thing, when in reality they were launched as a response to Muslim savage aggression against Europeans.

I think even when their head is on the block and one of the savages is getting ready to behead them they will still side with them over Christianity.

Satan is hard at work, you can see it every day.
The Crusades were attempts by Rome to reclaim the Holy Land and more. This 200 year round, they conveniently did so in the name of Christ. They sought to purge Jews and Muslims, alike.
 
Old 02-15-2015, 11:59 AM
 
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Popes were war monguers who claimed to be working on behalf of Christ. The Crudades were nothing more than politics and a failed land grab. Popes recruited Crusaders by forgiving their past, present and future sins.

The Crusaders raped, pillaged and robbed their way across Europe and parts of Asia and Northern Africa.
They targeted Jews and Muslims, alike. They targeted Europeans who opposed them. ISIS pales in comparison to the atrocities against mankind that the Crusaders perpetuated.

After 200 years the Crusades ended and the church retreated.

Obama's use of the Crusades was a tad goofy although it was spot on in terms of a distant historical analogy, global terrorists using religion as a tool to achieve outcomes that had nothing to do with religion and all to do with politics and power.

Most people have no concept of the Crusades and many, especially Catholics, seem to believe the Crusaders were the good guys who won the 200 year war against Muslims and Jews. Reality is the opposite.
True !!
 
Old 02-15-2015, 12:13 PM
 
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Is this supposed to be taken seriously. Western christian nations are the most violent, war mongers, genocidal nations ever known in human history. After being perpetually at war with each other, they took their rage on the world. Muslims did not exterminate the natives in north America, the aboriginal people of Australia, or 2/3 of the Jewish population of Europe. The scale of the massacres perpetrated and the war casualties was unprecedented. Let's not even talk about violence against natives in south America or against African Americans.
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Something called the Enlightenment developed in the Christian West. That is why we are discussing if gays should be allowed to be married, not if gays should be stoned. Much of the Arab world missed out on the Enlightenment.

It is the Christian West that has all but eliminated slavery in the parts of the world where it has influence.

Thomas Sowell: Poisoning present by distorting slavery's past | Dallas Morning News
whogo nailed it. The "West" in 2015 is pretty damn good except for be PC; otherwise we wouldn't be dealing with 3rd world illegal immigration and bottom feeder Muslims wanting to LEAVE their countries.
 
Old 02-15-2015, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Houston
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The Crusades were attempts by Rome to reclaim the Holy Land
Yes, reclaim. So how was it taken in the first place?
 
Old 02-15-2015, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Houston
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What I find funny is they same individuals who will scoff at Republicans who claim blacks ought to vote for the party of Lincoln will smear the Christian West with actions that were long before the Protestant Reformation. It was the Protestant Reformation that paved the way for the Enlightenment and the reason I am sitting peacefully in my home, a Catholic in a predominately Protestant country, with my Filipina wife with few worries.

The mistake the West has made is we thought you can instantly enlighten everyone. Hell, we ain't all they way there yet.
 
Old 02-15-2015, 01:22 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Islam is not compatible with western society. The last Pope had it pegged:

http://www.religionnews.com/2014/09/...slam-analysis/

"In his 2006 speech, simply titled “Faith, Reason and the University: Memories and Reflections,” Benedict characteristically took up a knotty concept — the interplay of faith and reason. He wanted to show how reason untethered from faith leads to fanaticism and violence.

To illustrate that case, Benedict dug up an obscure 14th-century dialogue between a long-forgotten Byzantine Christian emperor, Manuel II Paleologus, and a Persian scholar, about the concept of violence in Islam.

“Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached,” Benedict quoted the emperor as saying to his Islamic interlocutor.

In Islamic teaching, Benedict said, “God is absolutely transcendent. His will is not bound up with any of our categories, even that of rationality.”"

14th Century - 21st century. Same old problem. Only thing that has changed is some of us are too "enlightened" to understand the true nature of Islam. Secular and anti-Christian intellectuals of today, including Obama and some posters on this forum, simply can't grasp Islam because they were taught to hate Christianity.
 
Old 02-15-2015, 01:56 PM
 
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I believe that people have the right to share any belief and religion they want, but practice at home or in a mosque or church or something.
Really?
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