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The "muslim problem" in the E.U. is as much a failure of a clannish European culture, as it is a problem of "terrorism". All folks have a natural tendency to group together for self protection whenever faced with an "unwelcoming" local culture. In fact even the word "ghetto" originated in Europe, to describe the enclaves of the first "middle eastern" immigrants to Europe… the Jews!
And now a lot of our own "clannish" folks, seem to wanna whip up intolerance and anti-muslim hysteria, to "import" the same problem over here!
The "muslim problem" in the E.U. is as much a failure of a clannish European culture, as it is a problem of "terrorism". All folks have a natural tendency to group together for self protection whenever faced with an "unwelcoming" local culture. In fact even the word "ghetto" originated in Europe, to describe the enclaves of the first "middle eastern" immigrants to Europe… the Jews!
And now a lot of our own "clannish" folks, seem to wanna whip up intolerance and anti-muslim hysteria, to "import" the same problem over here!
Gallup poll says lack of access to education and jobs reinforcing a sense of ostracism.
Unemployment and lack of education are because the absurd welfare states of Fabian EU already struggle under their own bloated weight, and cannot readily accept a large influx of newly entitled welfare need that is common to African and Middle Eastern immigrants.
When your employment laws basically give tenure to every job in the country after a couple months, unemployment will increase at the fringes, which is where all immigrants start. Schools have mandated class sizes, populations, etc....and once again, they are at the end of that queue.
Bottom line is that socialism fails even for an unchanging, established population over some period of time. It simply fails faster when it imports large numbers of the needy. Welcome to the EU and their African/Middle Eastern immigration problem. Plus, Germany and France have no more economies to absorb. They already got them all, cashed in all the new money, and now just have an even bigger, bloated, ever growing welfare state to handle, with no other magic pots of gold laying around.
The "muslim problem" in the E.U. is as much a failure of a clannish European culture, as it is a problem of "terrorism". All folks have a natural tendency to group together for self protection whenever faced with an "unwelcoming" local culture. In fact even the word "ghetto" originated in Europe, to describe the enclaves of the first "middle eastern" immigrants to Europe… the Jews!
And now a lot of our own "clannish" folks, seem to wanna whip up intolerance and anti-muslim hysteria, to "import" the same problem over here!
To the Middle East? Are you serious? Who would want to live there? Surely anyone who did live there and left would never want to return. It's a mess, due to a combination of perpetual war (we're a big part of that) and radical Islam getting involved with the governments.
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Originally Posted by thunderkat59
Can any pro-Muslim individual point to a specific area that has improved with the influx of Muslims?
There aren't any. But there are areas that went largely unchanged, which is what you'd expect when dealing with moderates of any religious (or other) ideology. The issue is when the religion is taken to extreme and literal lengths. But Islam isn't alone on this. Not one place has benefited from the presence of fundamental Christianity.
Secularism will always be a superior philosophy; history has proven that. I have no problem with any religion, including Islam but religion must remain a person/family matter, not a public one. Public property is not a place for religion, including the religion of the majority (in the case of the West, Christianity). All public endeavors must remain secular in order to maintain reason. Muslims are less likely to be critical or aggressive of the state is they do not show ANY religious favoritism. Same goes for any other group really.
In regards to things like banning burkas, I have no major issue with that (I have no problem with wearing headscarves, but the burkas are extreme) so long as it's restricted to public places, however it's illegal to do that (in the US). Owners of private property can technically ban burkas, but the 9th amendment protect things like wearing certain clothing from government intervention.
An article from al jazeera, is it any wonder Europeans get painted in a bad light?
Al Jazeera is a much more legitimate news source than FOX News and CNN, especially FOX News which is completely corrupt.
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is it any wonder Europeans get painted in a bad light?
