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Old 02-18-2015, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Are you addicted to strawmen, or what?

Nobody has refuted that the Earth has warmed, or that the Ice has receded. In fact, during the last ice age, there were purportedly ice sheets two miles thick that covered New York City.

Virtually all of that ice and the rest of the ice covering the Earth melted away well before the last 100 years.

Panic if you want to, but there is really no need. All this has happened before and will happen again, and there is nothing we can do to stop it.
Talk about a strawman argument....When are you going to stop using the past as an argument? It's not the past we are concerned about. Do you even know what climate forcings brought the globe out of the last glacial period? Causes of Climate Change | Climate Change | US EPA

 
Old 02-18-2015, 12:58 PM
 
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So in the earth's billions of years, there has NEVER been a 50 or 100 year period that has warmed at this rate?
I don't know about that, but there has never been a time when the earth warmed for the reason it is warming today.
 
Old 02-18-2015, 01:16 PM
 
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So in the earth's billions of years, there has NEVER been a 50 or 100 year period that has warmed at this rate?
Greenland ice core data suggests the warming at the end of the Younger Dryas (~9,500 BC) was 10 +/- 4 degreesC warming in under 50 years. Evidence suggests that the Roman Warm Period and Medieval Warm period were both warmer than current, and that the Roman Warm Period had a faster change in temperature as well.

Bottom line, there have likely been plenty of shorter time frames with even more dramatic temperature changes in either direction, but none we can directly measure as we do daily global temp now. The interpolated temperature record are always in a state of reevaluation by sciency people doing sciency stuff, and plenty of material out there about the Younger Dryas warming, the 1st Century warming, the Medieval Warming, etc.
 
Old 02-18-2015, 01:20 PM
 
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Men having that much estrogen is pretty alarming.
You know what they say, it takes one to know one.
 
Old 02-18-2015, 01:41 PM
 
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Greenland ice core data suggests the warming at the end of the Younger Dryas (~9,500 BC) was 10 +/- 4 degreesC warming in under 50 years. Evidence suggests that the Roman Warm Period and Medieval Warm period were both warmer than current, and that the Roman Warm Period had a faster change in temperature as well.

Bottom line, there have likely been plenty of shorter time frames with even more dramatic temperature changes in either direction, but none we can directly measure as we do daily global temp now. The interpolated temperature record are always in a state of reevaluation by sciency people doing sciency stuff, and plenty of material out there about the Younger Dryas warming, the 1st Century warming, the Medieval Warming, etc.
I'm trying to remember, did Roman's have SUVs?
 
Old 02-18-2015, 01:41 PM
 
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You know what they say, it takes one to know one.
And that one wins the booby prize.
 
Old 02-18-2015, 01:47 PM
 
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I'm trying to remember, did Roman's have SUVs?
No, but I already got what must be the new and approved Roman (1st Century) Warm Period deflection from one of the AGW folks - "yeah, but that was back when there weren't 7 billion people living in coastal cities."

I classify it as a deflection because a) it doesn't address that in recorded history of human civilization, yes there has been more dramatic warming which did not result in the cataclysms predicted by the cult of AGW, and b) moves the goalposts away from "unprecedented warming" to "yeah, well...starvation!!"

Anyway, data, analysis and research suggests that in just the short span of time humans have been around, there have been warmer periods than now, and faster warming over shorter periods as well.
 
Old 02-18-2015, 01:49 PM
 
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and that one wins the booby prize.
Or the bro award.

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Old 02-18-2015, 01:52 PM
 
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Anyway, data, analysis and research suggests that in just the short span of time humans have been around, there have been warmer periods than now, and faster warming over shorter periods as well.
Please don't confuse them with the facts it will just hurt there brain.
 
Old 02-18-2015, 01:59 PM
 
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And that one wins the booby prize.
You said booby.
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