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Distracted driving isn't enforced because it can't. I've seen drivers (as a passenger mind you) eat cereal or read the news paper while driving as well as on the phone or reading the phone and not get caught. The law isn't enforced at all. The issue is I see about 20 cell phone per every non cell phone distracted driver. I am all for people's rights but you have to remember operating a vehicle is your number one priority. Unless your job highly needs you to answer the phone, don't worry about it. When driving, I put mine on silent and no vibrate. Is that so hard for others to do? Common sense folks. If more people used it, many laws wouldn't need to exist or could be repealed (Missouri River steam ship racing law fir instance.)
Not so. I found this tidbit without looking that hard: Arizona DPS made 19,800 stops for distracted driving through the first 9 months of 2014. So they can enforce distracted driving. But the no cell phone law is more important than that as it influences attitudes. Drivers get used to the idea that texting and driving is "illegal" and give it up or choose hands free alternatives as a matter of routine. There is no excusing one self by rationalizing that "I am OK, I am not distracted". The very act is the sin. We change our behavior in a positive way. AZ needs to get with the program.
Do we also need separate laws for reading the newspaper while driving, changing clothes while driving, applying makeup while driving, playing gameboy while driving, watching football on your phone while driving or receiving oral sex while driving?
Do you honestly believe that ANY of those examples happen as often as texting and driving? You could add all those up, times them by 1000 and still wouldnt be anywhere near the number of people who text and drive.
Speaking of idiots who use their phones and drive, I'd rather encounter a drunk driver than someone texting. Atleast the drunk is looking or atleast trying to look at the road. Or if he's passed out and still moving, then he'd be level with someone texting.
Not so. I found this tidbit without looking that hard: Arizona DPS made 19,800 stops for distracted driving through the first 9 months of 2014. So they can enforce distracted driving. But the no cell phone law is more important than that as it influences attitudes. Drivers get used to the idea that texting and driving is "illegal" and give it up or choose hands free alternatives as a matter of routine. There is no excusing one self by rationalizing that "I am OK, I am not distracted". The very act is the sin. We change our behavior in a positive way. AZ needs to get with the program.
Yeah, I tried finding figures but only got a study that showed around 1,000 stops for distracted driving. The issue is as I and others (yourself included) mentioned the behavior is much more common than most garden variety distracted driving accidents and also much more carnage produced. I agree entirely and as I said, these behaviors SHOULD be common sense but as I said the idiot who lack it at the least have momentarily lack common sense are the ones who has laws are created. People should know better than flicking cigarette butts into the forest but they still do it and it is illegal, especially if it starts a wildfire.
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Do you honestly believe that ANY of those examples happen as often as texting and driving? You could add all those up, times them by 1000 and still wouldnt be anywhere near the number of people who text and drive.
I don't. Sure you have that happen but as I said it is rare to see someone eat cereal for breakfast while driving, I saw that once compared to four to five people on the cell phone a trip for whatever whether work or supermarkets.
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I almost got t-boned last week by an oblivious women texting while blowing a red light. She never looked up and just kept on going.
Yeah that is victimless? Short quick stops even without wrecking can cause injury or a fender bender because the person behind you couldn't stop in time.
Yeah, I tried finding figures but only got a study that showed around 1,000 stops for distracted driving. The issue is as I and others (yourself included) mentioned the behavior is much more common than most garden variety distracted driving accidents and also much more carnage produced. I agree entirely and as I said, these behaviors SHOULD be common sense but as I said the idiot who lack it at the least have momentarily lack common sense are the ones who has laws are created. People should know better than flicking cigarette butts into the forest but they still do it and it is illegal, especially if it starts a wildfire.
I don't. Sure you have that happen but as I said it is rare to see someone eat cereal for breakfast while driving, I saw that once compared to four to five people on the cell phone a trip for whatever whether work or supermarkets.
Yeah that is victimless? Short quick stops even without wrecking can cause injury or a fender bender because the person behind you couldn't stop in time.
yes.
Victim-a person harmed, injured, or killed as a result of a crime, accident, or other event or action.
synonyms: sufferer, injured party, casualty;
Victim-a person harmed, injured, or killed as a result of a crime, accident, or other event or action.
synonyms: sufferer, injured party, casualty;
No victim, no crime.
I think you didn't read the full comment, I'll repeat and underline the part where there becomes an injured party.
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Yeah that is victimless?Short quick stops even without wrecking can cause injury or a fender bender because the person behind you couldn't stop in time.
Sorry but to me, a person nearly getting T-Boned because they looking down at the cell phone breaks the Non-Aggressive Principle (if I believed in that) because of the potential of injury from the action.
Do we also need separate laws for reading the newspaper while driving, changing clothes while driving, applying makeup while driving, playing gameboy while driving, watching football on your phone while driving or receiving oral sex while driving?
No--just one law--no hand held cell phones. Very easy. Florida legislature is also full of idiots who refuse to make cell phone use illegal. They just passed a law that you can cite someone for texting while driving as a secondary offense. I'm hoping one of those idiots in the legislature gets t-boned by someone who is talking or texting. I am dodging these weaving morons who cannot stay in one lane all day, and I am sick to death of the moronic Fla legislature who refuses to use any common sense whatsoever.
We also have idiots who insist on driving slower in the passing lane, and the Fla government refuses to make a law that the left lane (on the interstate) is a passing lane. This causes numerous road rage incidents and accidents, but when Jeb was governor, he said it wasn't 'fair' to punish people for going under the speed limit in the passing lane. Sorry, but commons sense needs to reign sometimes and in this case ignoring common sense causes accidents, injuries and death.
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Short quick stops even without wrecking can cause injury or a fender bender because the person behind you couldn't stop in time.
