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And while I readily admit to knowing zero about international college admissions, it does beg the question...what about the quality of that education? Seems to me (more at the graduate level anyway) international students are begging to come to the U.S. to study. There has to be a reason why.
I can answer that with two words: selective admissions. If our public K-12 schools had similar selective admissions, they'd also be the best in the world.
It's all about grouping students by ability/skill level, and targeting instruction to benefit each group the most.
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I can answer that with two words: selective admissions. If our public K-12 schools had similar selective admissions, they'd also be the best in the world.
It's all about grouping students by ability/skill level, and targeting instruction to benefit each group the most.
So when those international students come over are we getting their "bottom of the barrel" sort of speak, or are we getting the brightest? If their best students are coming here it speaks well of the actual education received in the US. If not.... well.. then that speaks volumes as well.
So when those international students come over are we getting their "bottom of the barrel" sort of speak, or are we getting the brightest? If their best students are coming here it speaks well of the actual education received in the US.
Only at the post-secondary level, at which admissions are selectively based.
The very sad fact is that U.S. public schools educate only 1/3 of all high school graduates to even basic 12th-grade proficiency levels. U.S. public schools educate only 26% of all public school students to even basic grade-level proficiency in math, 38% in reading, by 12th grade.
So when those international students come over are we getting their "bottom of the barrel" sort of speak, or are we getting the brightest? If their best students are coming here it speaks well of the actual education received in the US. If not.... well.. then that speaks volumes as well.
We generally get their best and brightest. That's largely because the U.S. university system is the best in the World, bar none. You can go anywhere in the World and people will recognize the names of several U.S. universities, including many excellent state schools. Of course, the lions share of the students at our universities are from America and the vast majority of them have a public k-12 education.
However, I doubt that most of the people on this forum can name more than three foreign universities off the top of their heads...
But if you listen to the far right, you would swear our entire education system is a failure.
But if you listen to the far right, you would swear our entire education system is a failure.
It is, at the K-12 level. How can you dispute that given that only 1/3 of all public high school graduates are educated to even basic 12th-grade proficiency levels? U.S. public schools educate only 26% of all public school students to even basic grade-level proficiency in math, 38% in reading, by 12th grade.
We generally get their best and brightest. That's largely because the U.S. university system is the best in the World, bar none. You can go anywhere in the World and people will recognize the names of several U.S. universities, including many excellent state schools. Of course, the lions share of the students at our universities are from America and the vast majority of them have a public k-12 education.
However, I doubt that most of the people on this forum can name more than three foreign universities off the top of their heads...
But if you listen to the far right, you would swear our entire education system is a failure.
Home schooling is very successful and if our public schools were such an outstanding success why do our national leaders send their children to DC schools instead of spending hundreds of thousands to private school their children?
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