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I think that in addition to be influenced by communists Obama is also heavily influenced by anti-colonialists which would explain his hate for the US, the UK, and the West in general. Remember how he sent the bust of Winston Churchill back to Blighty? Or how he sides with Argentina over the Falkland Islands issue (despite the fact that 99% of islanders want to stay British)? Yeah ...
I agree with you that Giuliani is right. I'm not sure though that Obama's faithful don't know. Some maybe don't, but others know and approve of Obama's politics. They also hate Capitalism and America.
How about what Giuliani's faithful do not know? Why don't you read a little about this fabulous guy with whom you are agreeing.
"The onetime presidential candidate also revealed at the party that Obama "doesn't love America... Rudy may have forgotten the half-dozen deferments he won ducking the Vietnam War, even getting the federal judge he was clerking for to write a letter creating a special exemption for him. And remember Bernie Kerik? He's the Giulaini police commissioner, business partner and sidekick whose nomination as homeland security secretary narrowly preceded indictments. He then did his national service in prison."
"Giuliani went so far as to rebuke the President for not being "brought up the way you were and the way I was brought up through love of this country," a bow no doubt to the parenting prowess of Harold Giuliani, who did time in Sing Sing for holding up a Harlem milkman and was the bat-wielding enforcer for the loan-sharking operation run out of a Brooklyn bar owned by Rudy's uncle."
1) Giuliani is an irrelevant political hack making lame attempts at convincing people he's relevant.
2) Walker trodding the national stage would be yet another confirmation of the Peter Principle.
Giuliani at least told the truth, President Obama was not raised as an American. Nothing, wrong with Obama's views if he lived somewhere else. Some of his views don't fall in line with even many Democrats......you know Apple Pie, Baseball and all. Somehow President Obama even sees the founding fathers as Muslims......never knew that!
Do you and others remember when President Obama blamed President Bush for being "unpatriotic" on spending. Yet, President Obama went in and spent more, where was the "change?".......those rebels/drug cartel must need weapons to "fundamentally change" America.
I think that in addition to be influenced by communists Obama is also heavily influenced by anti-colonialists which would explain his hate for the US, the UK, and the West in general. Remember how he sent the bust of Winston Churchill back to Blighty? Or how he sides with Argentina over the Falkland Islands issue (despite the fact that 99% of islanders want to stay British)? Yeah ...
And since Giuliani was heavily influenced by the gangster culture, we can now understand why he is so corrupt.
Not really. Giuliani is reducing his stature to that of about Donald Trump with these redneck hillbilly comments. No one is going to take him seriously anymore.
"Redneck hillbilly comments?" You think "hillbillies" are the only people who think like Giuliani? Think again.
Pretty high complement, equating him with the stature of "The Donald." Trump's success in business and his savvy are without question. He's a tycoon.
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Just because you don't agree with someone's policies doesn't give you the right to conclude that he or she doesn't "love this country." Adults recognize this; petulant, tantrum-prone children don't. It's a very childish claim to make, and it makes the claimant look stupid.
It's not just a matter that he doesn't agree with his policies. He knows what his policies are, and knows they are anti-American. And he does have the right to conclude what he does, because it's painfully obvious that Obama does not love America, but he hates it. Why would someone who loves America want to overthrow our government? That's exactly what Obama wanted to do, as a member of a Marxist/socialist club at Occidental, as told by his former friend, John Drew
By the way, blind devotion to patriotism and "American Exceptionalism" is stupid and leads to horrible, arrogant, and naive policy. It is not a good measure of a political leader but rather quite the opposite.
Giuliani doesn't have "blind devotion." His eyes are wide open. His kind of patriotism (like Ronald Reagan's) leads to decisions that are in America's interests, unlike Obama's decisions and actions, which are not.
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Giuliani at least told the truth, President Obama was not raised as an American. Nothing, wrong with Obama's views they just don't fall in line with even many Democrats.
OH?
Just WHAT constitutes being "raised as an American"?
And just HOW does any politician having views that don't fall in line with everyone else's views make him/her unique?
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Do you and others remember when President Obama blamed President Bush for being "unpatriotic" on spending. Yet, President Obama went in and spent more, where was the "change?".......those rebels/drug cartel must need weapons to "fundamentally change" America.
I've never said there was change nor that Obama was anything but just another political hack. That's what the two party system has led to, one political hack vs. another, the choice of lesser evil.
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Still can't refute what he said though, can you?
He said his O-P-I-N-I-O-N unsupported by fact.
WHAT is there to refute?
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Somehow President Obama even sees the founding fathers as Muslims......never knew that!
