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As for the second amendment The founding Fathers had no idea that #1 guns would be so plentiful in the future and #2 brains would not be.
I don't agree, seeing as how that's your opinion with no facts or evidence to back it up. In fact, I think just the opposite is true. Everyone had a gun back then, and almost everyone was in a Militia. If you look at the population figures of that time and compare it with the guns in civilian hands, it would by far be more guns than it is now.
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
...the right of the People [emphasis mine]...
Militias, comprised of citizens, were once commonplace. Should that "security" to ensure a free state be necessary, the framers simply wanted to preserve that right of the people.
What part of "well regulated" don't you understand?
We've been over this already. It has nothing to do with restricting access to, types of weapons we may posses, or any of the other restrictions so beloved by anti-gunners.
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What right(s) do you have that would limit my right to keep and bear arms (other than on YOUR private property)?
Well let's see, the government has an obligation to promote the general welfare and provide for the common defense and the 2nd amendment says that the militia is to be trained. All those things right there imply regulation as to who can own a weapon etc.
Then you have the fact that having a firearm makes it easier to violate my right to my life and my personal property when walking down the street. So it very much affects me. Plus many business owners do not want people on their property with a firearm.
Well let's see, the government has an obligation to promote the general welfare and provide for the common defense and the 2nd amendment says that the militia is to be trained. All those things right there imply regulation as to who can own a weapon etc.
You understand that none of that has anything to do with your rights limiting mine, don't you?
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Then you have the fact that having a firearm makes it easier to violate my right to my life and my personal property when walking down the street.
Are you saying that since you have a right to life and property, that nobody may possess the means to take your life or property?
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So it very much affects me. Plus many business owners do not want people on their property with a firearm.
I already addressed the private property issue, and I agree with it 100%. Private property owners absolutely have the right to invite or exclude whoever they wish.
Voting is a right also. Yet you have to register to vote. And you can't vote more than once in the same election.
Peaceable assembly is a right also (1st amendment). But you have to get a permit if you want to march on the Brooklyn Bridge.
All rights are limited by the rights that other people have.
Not the same. Voting would not have all these restrictions if people could be trusted to vote without fraud, but we know they can not. SO rules are put into place to "FORTIFY" the right of a FAIR election. It adds to it, and does not take away from it. Your not thinking.
You can still assemble the same as you always could. A permit does not take away your rights to do so. What it does, is insure my "Rights" and keeps you from interfering with my rights while you exercise yours. You have no right to stop me from going home from work because you decide to protest. It also gives safety controls to authorities to protect the public. Again, your not thinking....
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