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Yeah sure. Let's rid the nation of nasty guns so we'll all be safe and warm in our beds at night....while outside, cloaked by the darkness, the armed criminal decides who's the weakest...
Here's another quest for the foolish anti-gun people. In Africa the tigers are attacking and killing too many elephants. You should demand a law that requires the African government to cut off the elephant's tusks in order to stop the tiger attacks.
Regardless of crime stats, guns will never be banned in the US. The only reasonable recourse is to make them harder to own and more of a paper trail. This will happen on a state level as it already has been. I think this is why you see so many different opinions about different laws and regulations when it comes to owning a gun. Some states will be stricter, while others will be more lenient.
And for the record, when was the last time someone used a gun to win a war against their government? Most people that commit gun crimes are violent criminals, not people trying to protect themselves, instead as a defensive tool guns are mostly used as an offensive tool.
Maybe we should resist the urge to "do something" when what we are already doing is working?
We're doing a fine job of making America safer without disarming the law-abiding. While the perception of "accidental gun deaths" and "gun crime" and "violent crime" is growing, the actual rates are improving every year.
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Regardless of crime stats, guns will never be banned in the US. The only reasonable recourse is to make them harder to own and more of a paper trail. This will happen on a state level as it already has been. I think this is why you see so many different opinions about different laws and regulations when it comes to owning a gun. Some states will be stricter, while others will be more lenient.
The problem with "more of a paper trail", is that this is seen, rightly so, as a prerequisite for confiscation.
Statistics show there is no correlation between the "strictness" of the laws around firearms and the crime rate. Areas which had high crime and implemented strict rules (California, Connecticut, New York, Chicago) still have high crime rates. States with very few murders and relaxed rules rules where any law-abiding resident can carry a concealed handgun (Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire) continue to have very low crime rates.
Certain posters keep harping on about how countries with few legal guns have fewer "gun crimes" and fewer "gun murders", but ignore that they started out with a low crime rate, passed gun laws, and see fewer "gun crimes", but sometimes more overall violent crime. How is disarming the victims a good thing if it leads to more rapes and more home invasions? Yes, fewer people get shot, but total deaths might be higher.
How is disarming the victims a good thing if it leads to more rapes and more home invasions? Yes, fewer people get shot, but total deaths might be higher.
Are guns the only defensive legal tools to defend against those crimes? Gun crimes in the US have gone up, but gun deaths have gone down, not because of less crime, but because of better medical treatment.
Perceived crime rate is high, actual crime rate has been on the decline for decades
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Are guns the only defensive legal tools to defend against those crimes?
Firearms are the most effective defensive tools available. I'm not saying that if you can't or won't use a firearm that something like an air taser is not also useful, but it is not a replacement, and many areas make tasers just as difficult to own and carry as actual firearms.
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Gun crimes in the US have gone up, but gun deaths have gone down, not because of less crime, but because of better medical treatment.
You claim "Gun crimes in the US have gone up"; Every statistic I can find says the opposite.
Yes, the perception of firearms crime and resulting fear has gone up, the actual "gun crime" rate in the USA has declined significantly since the early '90s. The most recent available DOJ report says "homicides due to firearms fell 39 percent between 1993 and 2011. The use of firearms in crimes without fatalities dropped 69 percent during the same period".
I don't think that's correct. How would you register it?
I've never been asked for a driver's license when registering a car. I usually do it at AAA.
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Are guns the only defensive legal tools to defend against those crimes? Gun crimes in the US have gone up, but gun deaths have gone down, not because of less crime, but because of better medical treatment.
This isn't about a debate, it's about opinion based on stats. You can feel free to believe what you want, your problem is for some reason you feel like you need to persuade people of your opinion, perhaps you should live and let live.
There is a difference between violence and gun violence, the topic at hand is gun violence.
I don't think that's correct. How would you register it?
You do not have to register it, it only needs registered if driving on a public road. Many people have cars that are not registered, like farm trucks, race cars, show cars, etc. Basically it is called "OHV" (Off Highway Vehicle).
Have you ever bought a car before? These things are pretty common sense.
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Maybe we should resist the urge to "do something" when what we are already doing is working?
