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Old 02-22-2015, 05:03 AM
 
Location: Buffalo
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What we see and hear today is that Putin is a conqueror. Notice how the media, polls, government dupes, and others are doing their best to demonize Putin. Putin here, Putin there, attack NATO, Europe...sick of this ****

Let's see now. Since the fall of the USSR Russia had no incursions. I doubt about Georgia. As soon as the Ukrainian coup was fait accompli Crimea went running to Mother Russia's arms to protect themselves.

Let's take a look at American foreign involvements since the fall of the USSR.

Gulf War I, Bosnia, Afghanistan, Iraq...

Egypt - US pressured Mubarak to resign installed puppet regime under the Muslim Brotherhood

Libya - "we came we saw he died" removed Gaddafi from power and turned Libya into a dogs breakfast with jihadis in charge

Syria - continuing attempts to remove Assad and turn Syria over to the opposition Syrian Muslim Brotherhood. This interference has led to the rise of ISIS (most likely).
And helping the opposition in the Ukraine to overthrow a duly elected President and his party and installing a western puppet favorable to the west.

Oh, and a couple of military involvements.
Haiti in 1991 CIA backed a military coup to get rid of the President.

Then there was Somalia in '92 to '94.
Liberia and Zaire. That was 1996-1997.
2004 overthrow Bertrand in Haiti AGAIN.

I`m not pro-Putin, I just want people to think...
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Old 02-22-2015, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Texas
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What we see and hear today is that Putin is a conqueror. Notice how the media, polls, government dupes, and others are doing their best to demonize Putin. Putin here, Putin there, attack NATO, Europe...sick of this ****

Let's see now. Since the fall of the USSR Russia had no incursions. I doubt about Georgia. As soon as the Ukrainian coup was fait accompli Crimea went running to Mother Russia's arms to protect themselves.

Let's take a look at American foreign involvements since the fall of the USSR.

Gulf War I, Bosnia, Afghanistan, Iraq...

Egypt - US pressured Mubarak to resign installed puppet regime under the Muslim Brotherhood

Libya - "we came we saw he died" removed Gaddafi from power and turned Libya into a dogs breakfast with jihadis in charge

Syria - continuing attempts to remove Assad and turn Syria over to the opposition Syrian Muslim Brotherhood. This interference has led to the rise of ISIS (most likely).
And helping the opposition in the Ukraine to overthrow a duly elected President and his party and installing a western puppet favorable to the west.

Oh, and a couple of military involvements.
Haiti in 1991 CIA backed a military coup to get rid of the President.

Then there was Somalia in '92 to '94.
Liberia and Zaire. That was 1996-1997.
2004 overthrow Bertrand in Haiti AGAIN.

I`m not pro-Putin, I just want people to think...
We can do it, they can't. You know the rules.
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Old 02-22-2015, 08:32 AM
 
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What we see and hear today is that Putin is a conqueror. Notice how the media, polls, government dupes, and others......
  • If you are getting your information from CBS, ABC, NBC (and any of their by products), CNN or Fox, then you simply are not getting an accurate view of the world.
  • The Ukraine boils down to one thing.... Oil. Joe Biden's son was given the job to run the oil industry after the CIA staged a coup of the legitimate, Russian leaning, government last year. Putin had enough of it.
  • The Obama Administration demonstrates time & time again that it is clueless on the world stage, they don't listen to any advice, and they attack anyone who opposes them.
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Old 02-22-2015, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Central Maine
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Who is the real threat to the World?

It's not a "who", but a "what" - ignorance. And there are plenty of examples close at hand.
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Old 02-22-2015, 02:55 PM
 
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You don't have to look far to find LIBS willing to blame AMERICA for all the world, ills.

Now explain to us how Obama LOVES the country he wants to FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORM.
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Old 02-22-2015, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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You don't have to look far to find LIBS willing to blame AMERICA for all the world, ills.

Now explain to us how Obama LOVES the country he wants to FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORM.
Are you saying wanting to change a country means you don't care about it? This is the same argument the Loyalists would have used in 1775. It's what supporters of slavery would have said. Supporters of repealing prohibition. It's what the supporters of the war on drugs ARE saying.

Fear of change is weakness. Change can be good, but to assume all is bad because some of it is will inevitably keep progress from occurring, which is the last thing America needs.
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Old 02-22-2015, 03:26 PM
 
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Liberals, obviously.
You haven't been paying attention, it seems.
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Old 02-22-2015, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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You don't have to look far to find LIBS willing to blame AMERICA for all the world, ills.

Now explain to us how Obama LOVES the country he wants to FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORM.
Eh?

The United States has been evolving since Day One. It is in a constant state of transformation.

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Old 02-22-2015, 04:28 PM
 
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You can always move to Russia
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Old 02-22-2015, 05:10 PM
 
Location: planet octupulous is nearing earths atmosphere
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biggest threat to the world is politicians..
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