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Originally Posted by Goodnight
You're off topic but maybe Obama could just bribe the Iranians with arms as was the case with a prior great Commander in Chief.
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To whom are you referring?
Both the Clinton and the Reagan Administrations purchased weapons from Iran.
During the Reagan Administration for the Contras; during the Clinton Administration for the Bosniaks and Kosovars.
The difference is that such sales were permitted during the Reagan Administration with presidential approval.
After that, all sales were barred, period.
Of course, Clinton did not buy weapons from
thatIran.
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Originally Posted by MadisonR
When you are way in over your head, and your factual knowledge is utterly dwarfed, it would be better not to speak on a topic.
With the 4th lie below, you are now added to my ignore box:
The US overthrew no one, mossadegh was appointed by the shah, who was already in power and whose powers regarding foreign policy and the military mossadegh illegally tried to usurp. It was iranians who removed mossadegh, not a single US official/person did anything of the kind.
You're clearly of very few facts and have little to offer outside of juvenile slogans. Likely to vanish with most of the other weak posters in the near term...  |
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Originally Posted by TheCityTheBridge
If you cannot even recognize that there is a serious debate about Israeli policy in regard to the Occupied Territories, and even towards Arab Israelis, then it is you who are not serious.
You've got a warped view of history if you don't think the US overthrew Mossadegh. It is no longer a secret that US intelligence, in conjunction with British intelligence, arranged the coup that overthrew Mossadegh. The Secret CIA History of the Iran Coup, 1953
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Ahhhh...the dreaded "Ignore List."
Good for you.
More people need to stand against crap like that. A few other things you need to know. It was Kermit Roosevelt who got the call to plan the Mossadeq murder and coup. Kermit was a grandson of TR (if I recall correctly), and had a string of successful coups -- including the overthrow of the Greek government in 1948, plus electioneering in Italy and Germany after the war and on into the 50s.
A few members of the core group hired to murder Prime Minister Mossadeq, later became the MEK.
You can imagine how they felt about the duplicity of the US, who used them to put the Shah in power, then Shah immediately engages in human rights abuses, and so they're quite angry about having been used.
The MEK forms around 1964 or so and spends the next 15 hears trying to overthrow the Shah they put in power. They killed quite a few US government, military and civilian employees, which put them on the Terror List.
The MEK has since spent their time trying to overthrow the Ayatollahs.
Where it gets bizarre is Bush violates federal law and hires the MEK to interrogate -- torture -- Iraqis during the war, and the Iranians go along with it.
Even more bizarre is Clinton & Lake & Co illegally buying weapons from Iran to give to al-Qaida situated in Albania to smuggle the weapons to Bosniaks and Kosvars from 1994-1999.
The MEK goes back on the Terror List
in October 1997 and remains until September 2012.
You have to wonder if re-listing the MEK as a Terror Group was done to facilitate the illegal arms trade with Iran.
In my view, Iran did the smart thing.....allowing the US to use the MEK allows Iran to identify and track MEK members.
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Originally Posted by TheCityTheBridge
But someone who believes invasion and occupation is achievable is sober?
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It is achievable.
I trained for it. That's how I know.
My battalion's mission was to seize and hold both bridges across the River Karun to allow British and American armor units to cross from Kuwait/Iraq into Iran. The mission of one company was to hold a hard-point so engineers could come up and roll out a pontoon bridge (you know, in case one or both of the other bridges got destroyed or traffic-jammed).
Yeah, and that was
before we invaded Iraq (the first time).
If you know anyone who'll end up in the brigade on the Eastern Approach, you can tell them to thank me for that. I insisted a brigade could hold off the Iranian army there, so my bosses sent me to the NTC to prove it. All you need is constant air cover, an additional fires battalion and at least one additional mech infantry company attached for RACO support and it's a cinch.
The Iranian government collapses within 60-90 days.
Strategically...
Mircea
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