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The central problem with liberals on this issue is they do not realize that if you let 100 immigrants into this nation and only one flies an airplane into a building you have still screwed up.
At some point we need to come to some point in the center of these two views.
And in this interconnected world, do you really consider it a plausible strategy to attempt to ban anyone and everyone Muslim from accessing the nation at any time?
The central problem with liberals on this issue is they do not realize that if you let 100 immigrants into this nation and only one flies an airplane into a building you have still screwed up.
At some point we need to come to some point in the center of these two views.
So what is your answer impose North Korean style controls on foreigners or immigrants entering the country complete with minders and bugged living areas? Don't allow foreigners in at all?
So what is your answer impose North Korean style controls on foreigners or immigrants entering the country complete with minders and bugged living areas? Don't allow foreigners in at all?
See, I'm telling ya... a Dirty Harry movie. That really is how they form their foreign policy. It's that simple in their world.
So,,,,,these terrorist just happen to be Islamic? Sorry but there seems to be a connection there. Am I to ignore that little fact? Everyone gets it,,,,,All Muslims aren't terrorist and that's a well know fact,,but another fact is that it appears that all the terrorist are Islamic,,,That isn't going to go away,,,,,So deal with it.
Perhaps you haven't heard the news reports,,,,where do you live? Lalalandia?
I know what the article says. I'm just exhausted from all the hand-wringing about what to call it. Just name the organization and figure out the plan. We've been wrestling about what to call it for months. That's the result of a politically correct society where the terminology gets more emphasis than the substance. I don't think we need to offend peaceful Muslims but that point has been made. Just say ISIS and go ahead with the plan, once there is one. Jordan didn't have to debate it for weeks because everyone knows who they were after.
I agree. Of all people, peaceful or moderate Muslims know exactly what everybody is up against. More of them have been butchered than anybody. ISIS is evil, everybody and their dog gets it now.
And in this interconnected world, do you really consider it a plausible strategy to attempt to ban anyone and everyone Muslim from accessing the nation at any time?
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Originally Posted by Egbert
So what is your answer impose North Korean style controls on foreigners or immigrants entering the country complete with minders and bugged living areas? Don't allow foreigners in at all?
Apart from heads of state and diplomats, there is absolutely no good reason for us to admit Muslims to this country.
There is no good reason to admit them as refugees, immigrants, guest workers, students or even tourists.
Keep them out.
No one here -- liberal or conservative -- can tell whether or not these people are violent and radical.
So just keep them out.
We have nothing to gain from having them here, and we have a lot to lose (9/11, Fort Hood Massacre, Shoe Bomber, Underwear Bomber, Boston Marathon Bombing, attempted Times Square Bombing...)
Oh, but wait.
The liberals want to sing "Kumbaya" and "We Are the World" with the Muslims.
They want to groove and boogie with them while eating halal food and sitting around a big cosy campfire in front of UN Headquarters celebrating "international understanding" and multiculturalism so they can feel really cool, edgy and sophisticated.
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.
"The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.
"A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
"Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.
"No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."
Glossary:
VOTARY - A devout adherent of a cult or religion; a committed worshiper.
FATALISM - The doctrine that all events are predetermined by fate and are therefore unalterable.
APATHY - Absence or suppression of passion, emotion, or excitement; indifference.
IMPROVIDENT - Not providing for the future; thriftless; rash; incautious.
SLOVENLY - Marked by negligence; slipshod.
DEGRADED - Having been corrupted or depraved.
SENSUALISM - Excessive devotion to sensual pleasure.
RETROGRADE - To decline to an inferior state; degenerate.
MORIBUND - Stagnant; without force or vitality; about to die.
When the so-called moderate Muslims start railing against the terrorists I will be right alongside them.
Yet the silence is deafening.
Means they approve and that means kill all terrorists. By any means possible.
Ignorance is a problem, Muslims were fighting terrorist even before you were born, Muslims are in the frontline fighting while you're making smart comments.
Would like to see you volunteer and go fight with Muslims.
Thousands of Muslims have been killed fighting these fanatics, while you're making dumb comments !!
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