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Old 03-04-2015, 08:57 AM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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Prison proves it.

Ben Carson: Prisons prove being gay is a choice - CNN.com

Two questions:

(1) Why does Dr. Carson believe that he is correct in the face of all existing scientific evidence to the contrary? I've never met a gay person who says their sexuality is a choice. The overwhelming anecdotal evidence opposes Dr. Carson's view as well. Why does Dr. Carson think he's correct when the rest of his profession, and the overwhelming majority of gays say he is wrong?

(2) How can a medical Dr. use the ridiculous prison example-- textbook false causation-- to justify this? For a world renown surgeon and intelligent man, he's willing to come across as a simpleton on this issue... What's behind it?

To be clear, this discussion is about Dr. Carson and his thinking process... If you want to debate whether homosexuality is a choice, you're welcome to do so in 1987.

 
Old 03-04-2015, 09:01 AM
 
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Originally Posted by mlassoff View Post
Prison proves it.

Ben Carson: Prisons prove being gay is a choice - CNN.com

Two questions:

(1) Why does Dr. Carson believe that he is correct in the face of all existing scientific evidence to the contrary? I've never met a gay person who says their sexuality is a choice. The overwhelming anecdotal evidence opposes Dr. Carson's view as well. Why does Dr. Carson think he's correct when the rest of his profession, and the overwhelming majority of gays say he is wrong?

(2) How can a medical Dr. use the ridiculous prison example-- textbook false causation-- to justify this? For a world renown surgeon and intelligent man, he's willing to come across as a simpleton on this issue... What's behind it?

To be clear, this discussion is about Dr. Carson and his thinking process... If you want to debate whether homosexuality is a choice, you're welcome to do so in 1987.
(1) Because he is trying to stake out a position that will endear him to hard right religious conservatives for the GOP primary.

(2) Because its politics and something the religious right wants to hear.
 
Old 03-04-2015, 09:17 AM
 
Location: North America
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Moron. Why do people keep listening to this jerk.
 
Old 03-04-2015, 09:24 AM
 
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Originally Posted by mlassoff View Post
Prison proves it.

Ben Carson: Prisons prove being gay is a choice - CNN.com

Two questions:

(1) Why does Dr. Carson believe that he is correct in the face of all existing scientific evidence to the contrary? I've never met a gay person who says their sexuality is a choice. The overwhelming anecdotal evidence opposes Dr. Carson's view as well. Why does Dr. Carson think he's correct when the rest of his profession, and the overwhelming majority of gays say he is wrong?
Because he thinks for himself. It's interesting that you use "textbook false causation" in your post, yet here you are using textbook appeal to popularity. Why are you using a logical fallacy in the same post that you accuse someone else of using a logical fallacy?
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(2) How can a medical Dr. use the ridiculous prison example-- textbook false causation-- to justify this? For a world renown surgeon and intelligent man, he's willing to come across as a simpleton on this issue... What's behind it?
Perhaps because Dr Carson doesn't use your opinions of what a simpleton is when he makes decisions.
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To be clear, this discussion is about Dr. Carson and his thinking process... If you want to debate whether homosexuality is a choice, you're welcome to do so in 1987.
So despite the fact that you've shown the evidence for homosexuality not being a choice is either anecdotal or just going along with the generally accepted ideas without any actual proof, you still say that people who don't believe what you believe are backwards simpletons. Perhaps we should be having a discussion about the faulty thinking process of mlassoff rather than Ben Carson.

To be clear, I don't believe homosexuality is a choice. I just object to your use of logical fallacies and arrogance.
 
Old 03-04-2015, 09:25 AM
 
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He doesn't appear to understand that there is a difference between being homosexual and performing homosexual acts.

I hate mayonnaise. I can't stand the stuff. If you drop a ham sandwich on the deserted island I've been starving on, I'll be eating that mayonnaise without hesitation.

Being homosexual means that you are attracted to the opposite sex. Homosexual sex in prison is just physical sexual gratification out of desperation.
 
Old 03-04-2015, 09:25 AM
 
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Originally Posted by mlassoff View Post
Prison proves it.

Ben Carson: Prisons prove being gay is a choice - CNN.com

Two questions:

(1) Why does Dr. Carson believe that he is correct in the face of all existing scientific evidence to the contrary? I've never met a gay person who says their sexuality is a choice. The overwhelming anecdotal evidence opposes Dr. Carson's view as well. Why does Dr. Carson think he's correct when the rest of his profession, and the overwhelming majority of gays say he is wrong?

(2) How can a medical Dr. use the ridiculous prison example-- textbook false causation-- to justify this? For a world renown surgeon and intelligent man, he's willing to come across as a simpleton on this issue... What's behind it?

To be clear, this discussion is about Dr. Carson and his thinking process... If you want to debate whether homosexuality is a choice, you're welcome to do so in 1987.
You OBVIOUSLY DON'T agree with him.

Might YOUR opinions be biased?
 
Old 03-04-2015, 09:26 AM
 
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Moron. Why do people keep listening to this jerk.

after Obama, I say Ben Carson is an upgrade.
 
Old 03-04-2015, 09:27 AM
 
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is this what the 2016 Presidential election is going to come down to? meanwhile the real issues won't be discuss.
 
Old 03-04-2015, 09:30 AM
 
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is this what the 2016 Presidential election is going to come down to? meanwhile the real issues won't be discuss.
Totally. As unimportant sub-humans, gay people and their constitutional rights are complete non-issues.
 
Old 03-04-2015, 09:34 AM
 
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You can't say Carson isn't entertaining.

Ben, I mean.
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