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Old 03-05-2015, 08:22 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Wait til we start honoring the Chinese holidays..they are a week long.
Chinese is not a religion.

 
Old 03-05-2015, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Chinese is not a religion.
oops..left out the word "religious" which I can edit and put in.



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Old 03-05-2015, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I don't understand the issue, schools have always observed religious holidays for significant minorities. They need to be consistent with all religions, do atheists have an important holiday?

I would hope that they would extend the school year to compensate for these holiday.
 
Old 03-05-2015, 08:40 PM
 
Location: California
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I posted on another thread about this, it's just working with the audience is all. This is why different schools in different places have different schedules. There is no one right schedule. The schools don't "observe" the holiday, they just know a significant number of kids are going to be out of school the week of Christmas, etc. and work around it.
 
Old 03-05-2015, 09:18 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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So now I have two questions for NYC: Do all the school personnel get these days added to their contracts and get paid for them even if it falls on a day outside of the normal school year? Is alternate side street parking suspended on those days?


fwiw: For the following six years after 2016, those days are both summer days.
 
Old 03-05-2015, 09:25 PM
 
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Chinese is not a religion.
Correct that would be Oriental...



 
Old 03-05-2015, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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Not a city resident - live out on the island


It's kind of a spit in the face of every Jew in the city (I believe that there are over a million - by far the largest white group in the city).

It's honoring the traditions of a group that commits acts of terror against Jews in their holy land, in France, and mark my words - very soon in America.

It's like honoring Turkish holidays in a predominantly Armenian area, or having a festival celebrating the life of Joseph Stalin on Brighton Beach Avenue.

These Muslims are getting more and more ballsy, because we (our elected officials) empower them..next we will be serving halal in schools at taxpayer expense..segregating boys and girls class rooms.
As a Jew - NOPE. Attitudes such as yours are a spit in the face of Jews. We haven't forgotten what it's like to be singled out due to faith or ethnicity. Just because a very few Muslims have done harm to Jews does not mean we should hate. Quite the contrary. Some of the best friends of the Jewish communities I am and have been a part of have been our Muslim brothers and sisters.

If there are enough students and teachers who observe Eid and would otherwise not be at school, it makes sense to cater to the audience. If a significant portion of your class is out to observe a holiday, it hurts everyone.
 
Old 03-05-2015, 09:43 PM
 
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oops..left out the word "religious" which I can edit and put in.
Doesn't matter. Historically NYC public school holidays were based on the Teachers and not the Students. The NYC is pandering to Muslims to create a day they know will most likely fall on the wrong day.

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It is not possible to predict the date of Eid-al-Fitr according to the Gregorian calendar accurately. This is because the month of Shawwal begins, and hence the month of Ramadan ends, after a confirmed sighting of the new moon, either in Saudi Arabia or locally. The new moon may be sighted earlier or later in specific locations. Hence, many Muslims in different communities, for example on the east and west coasts of the USA and Canada, may begin the Eid-al-Fitr celebrations on different dates.

Eid-al-Fitr


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Ibrahim, known as Abraham in the Christian and Jewish traditions, was commanded by God to sacrifice his adult son. He obeyed and took Ishmael (Ismail or Ismael) to Mount Moriah. Just as he was to sacrifice his son, an angel stopped him and gave him a ram to sacrifice in place of his son. Some people dispute that the son of sacrifice was Isaac (Isḥāq). Regardless, these events are remembered and celebrated at Eid al-Adha.
The Islamic calendar is based on observations of the moon and the length of a particular month can vary between years. For this reason, predicted dates of Eid al-Adha may be corrected at the start of the month of Dhul Hijja. This is around 10 days before the start of the festival.
Eid-al-Adha
 
Old 03-06-2015, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Doesn't matter. Historically NYC public school holidays were based on the Teachers and not the Students. The NYC is pandering to Muslims to create a day they know will most likely fall on the wrong day.




Eid-al-Fitr




Eid-al-Adha
School holidays are based on attendance of both teachers and students, how does providing a religious holiday translate into pandering. Maybe you can counter the proposal with some stats to back up your contention since Muslims comprise around 10% of NYC, one school in Brooklyn had a 30% absentee rate and that's pandering?

Some on the Christian right think it's alright to put the 10 commandments in a court but this is pandering?
 
Old 03-06-2015, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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School ins't closed only for Christmas though. The break that is either called Winter or Christmas break is the space between semesters. That time would have to happen at some point; since Christmas falls in that time, it was an ideal time to put that break.

What other Christians holidays are there? Easter is the only major one I can think of, and it's on a Sunday so schools don't need to close.

So I'm not seeing the issue. The reason people don't want to refer to break as Christmas break is because the break is not happening because of Christmas. It would happen regardless, but perhaps on a different schedule.
Actually, the public k-12 school semesters in NYS and NYC end about the middle of January, not December. In the past that may have been true, however. In any case, it's less about "honoring" any particular religion and more about practicality.

Public school calendars (and even religious school calendars if the schools rely on public school transportation) today are set to accommodate the needs/practices of the district residents so that as many children are in school as possible when schools are in session. It's a waste of time and money to try to hold classes when a significant percentage of students are absent because the material covered will only have to be covered again for the children who missed it. Many teachers may also request that day off, too. Consequently, public schools schedule Good Friday off. School districts that have a significant percentage of Jewish students may close on important Jewish holidays. In Warren County, PA, the schools are closed for the first day of rifle deer season! Traditionally, in WNY, public schools took a two week break around Easter, but in recent years, more and more districts have gone to a new schedule where there's a week long break in February around Presidents' Day and a week around Easter, primarily because of the increasing popularity of winter vacations to Florida and other points south.
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