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Earn it. Like SO many of us have to do. Trade community service work for ACA subsidies and other forms of public assistance. Except the genuinely incapacitated, of course, but even my developmentally disabled step-sister works a part-time job in exchange for part of her room and board in a group home.
Uh huh.. And where do you expect the millions and millions of people who get subsidy to do community service? Are we going to send 275 people down to the local Y to pick up trash? Maybe another 300 could go to the local school and provide free babysitting.
Perhaps we should agree, as a country, that the health care of the lower middle class, and poor is as important as everyone else's? People working multiple jobs, single moms, even felons who can't find work, deserve health care.
Withholding health care from anyone-- or putting them near bankruptcy to pay for it-- is ethically untenable. YOUR sister isn't the only one who deserves a break.
Uh huh.. And where do you expect the millions and millions of people who get subsidy to do community service?
In their own communities.
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Are we going to send 275 people down to the local Y to pick up trash? Maybe another 300 could go to the local school and provide free babysitting.
There are significantly more options than just those 2.
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Perhaps we should agree, as a country, that the health care of the lower middle class, and poor is as important as everyone else's? People working multiple jobs, single moms, even felons who can't find work, deserve health care.
They are all just as capable of trading work for benefits as any of the rest of us. Why are you so dead set on making sure only some of us have to earn what we get, while others can have it for free or at a very reduced cost?
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Withholding health care from anyone-- or putting them near bankruptcy to pay for it-- is ethically untenable. YOUR sister isn't the only one who deserves a break.
She isn't getting a break. She's working in exchange for room and board.
And robbing Peter to pay Paul is ethically untenable.
In their own communities. There are significantly more options than just those 2.
They are all just as capable of trading work for benefits as any of the rest of us. Why are you so dead set on making sure only some of us have to earn what we get, while others can have it for free or at a very reduced cost?
She isn't getting a break. She's working in exchange for room and board.
And robbing Peter to pay Paul is ethically untenable.
You're being ridiculous.
1) Tens of millions are on subsidy. If you think you can place that number of people in volunteer positions, monitor their work, etc without inventing a huge bureaucracy to do so, I'd like to see it. I don't know where you'd place thousands of volunteers in my community let alone one that is economically depressed and everyone is on subsidy.
2) With tens of millions in a volunteer work force, what do you think that's going to do to unemployment.
3) Who's going to screen the truly disabled from the malingerers? Not all disabilities are visually obvious. Heart conditions? Mental illness.
You call robbing Peter to pay Paul. I call it living in a society. Sorry-- to be part of a society sometimes you have to pay some towards those less fortunate. I am fortunate enough to make a good living. I don't begrudge health care to the poor because I'd prefer to have a newer Audi.
Uh huh.. And where do you expect the millions and millions of people who get subsidy to do community service? Are we going to send 275 people down to the local Y to pick up trash? Maybe another 300 could go to the local school and provide free babysitting.
Perhaps we should agree, as a country, that the health care of the lower middle class, and poor is as important as everyone else's? People working multiple jobs, single moms, even felons who can't find work, deserve health care.
Withholding health care from anyone-- or putting them near bankruptcy to pay for it-- is ethically untenable. YOUR sister isn't the only one who deserves a break.
30 million will continue to go without insurance post ACA, going bankrupt etc..
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Uh huh.. And where do you expect the millions and millions of people who get subsidy to do community service? Are we going to send 275 people down to the local Y to pick up trash? Maybe another 300 could go to the local school and provide free babysitting.
Perhaps we should agree, as a country, that the health care of the lower middle class, and poor is as important as everyone else's? People working multiple jobs, single moms, even felons who can't find work, deserve health care.
Withholding health care from anyone-- or putting them near bankruptcy to pay for it-- is ethically untenable. YOUR sister isn't the only one who deserves a break.
This is where the left just doesn't get it. No one is talking about withholding healthcare. We're talking about insurance. Two totally separate issues. A felon who can't work gets treated by our tax dollars in prison. A single welfare mom already qualifies for Medicaid. Even people who are working MIGHT qualify for Medicaid. And if we're talking about basic healthcare, then why are we paying for catastrophic POLICIES for every single person. It's simply unsustainable.... at least for those of us paying for it.
And yet the number of uninsured, really hasnt fallen much from the starting point.. Not the high point, I'm talking about the numbers that were uninsured when ACA was signed into law.
What this means is that many who did have insurance, just switched to a subsidized policy.
Especially given we're still going to have 30 million uninsured..
Most dont file bankruptcy due to medical bills, they file bankruptcy because they had a heart attack and cant pay their other bills.
Now you're just being silly-- Why can't they pay the other bills then? Where did the money go? Good grief. That's weak.
Got a citation for this, or is this just a fact you made up to support your absurd position. Why can't some conservatives tell the difference between what they wish to be true and what is true?
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