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Old 03-14-2015, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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"Why does a costume...?"

No sense reading any more!
I'm thinking beyond government here and looking at humanity as a whole, philosophically. Where do police (or anyone who is part of the government) get special rights to do things that are wrong for anyone else to do? Much of what they do is using violence against non-violent people, which we consider to be wrong or immoral in our daily lives...unless it's the police. For some reason that's totally okay.

The justification used to be that God gave them the right to do it...divine right of kings. Nobody believes that anymore. People might say "we give them that right". How can you possibly delegate a right to someone else that you don't even have yourself? That's the issue. Government has this big exemption, as if it magically doesn't count if they do it...free pass.
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Old 03-14-2015, 01:45 PM
 
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police dogs are trained to take down a suspect and hold them. if the suspect tries to fight the dog, it will escalate, otherwise it will just hold the suspect until the officer calls the dog off. police dogs however are NOT attack dogs.

if an officer set the dog on you, dont resist and the dog will only hold you as trained.
We've all seen otherwise. (see previous posted video)
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Old 03-14-2015, 02:12 PM
 
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It is happening people.... The police state is quickly becoming the enemy of the free state.
Most wont believe it... UNTIL IT HAPPENS TO THEM!!
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Old 03-14-2015, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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Most wont believe it... UNTIL IT HAPPENS TO THEM!!
And even then they might deny it...Stockholm syndrome. Our own government could never be the bad guy!! It's those other evil governments that you see in the movies that do that, not us.
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Old 03-14-2015, 02:41 PM
 
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police dogs are trained to take down a suspect and hold them. if the suspect tries to fight the dog, it will escalate, otherwise it will just hold the suspect until the officer calls the dog off. police dogs however are NOT attack dogs.

if an officer set the dog on you, dont resist and the dog will only hold you as trained.


Dogs don't have opposable thumbs, which means the hold people with their big sharp pointy teeth. They also aren't capable of reasoning or critical thinking at a high level like many of the posters on this thread. Basically they're like really stupid aggressive people that are incredibly athletic. Think about that for a second. Now go make a sandwich and take a nap. Wake up rested and sharp and think about it some more.

It will come to you
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Old 03-14-2015, 03:00 PM
 
Location: USA
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A police dog IS considered a police officer no matter your disregard for their life. They go through extensive training and are a very expensive asset to the department. A criminal who kills one will face charges as if they killed a police officer.

Nice that you can easily disregard this sex offender's "separate offense".

Are you a defense attorney by any chance? His own mother was terrified of him.
Regardless of what the law says, a Police dog, is a dog. Not a human. It's not the same as a human life. That's the point being made.


I think another poster summed it up quite nice when they said that the same punishment isn't doled out when the shooter is an officer (you can find many examples of officers shooting people's pets).




The amount of training and price of the dog are irrelevant to it being a human and treated as such. If its about money then make it about that.








It's definitely more of a cultural thing. Not due to any sound reasoning or logic.
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Old 03-14-2015, 03:08 PM
 
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Q: Do you solemnly swear...

A. WOOF!
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Old 03-14-2015, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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Q: Do you solemnly swear...

A. WOOF!
I laughed out loud at that...thanks haha
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Old 03-15-2015, 09:01 AM
 
Location: San Diego California
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I see a lot of skirting around the core issue here. There is no doubt whatsoever that the government has elevated itself to a higher level than the citizen, but it is now saying that even its dogs are of a higher social standing than citizen human beings.

The hypocrisy of this issue is as blatant as it is disgusting. Police will and do kill a dogs on a whim, as can be attested to by the multitude of cases in which not only has this been done without proper justification, but in some instances have resulted in the murder of humans in the vicinity.
To defend yourself on the other hand from the vicious attack of a police dog, is a crime regardless if the attack was warranted or not.

In Georgia, Sen. Jeff Mullis filed a bill with the Georgia Legislature, law enforcement officers could charge someone with second-degree murder for killing a working police dog. Mullis' bill comes with other provisions. Physically harming a police dog could draw up to a year in prison. Deliberately injuring a K-9 could mean 10-20 years behind bars. Should the dog die, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation will be required to perform an autopsy.

If passed you can bet this type of legislation will spread thorough out the country.

The issue here is clearly not animal rights, but the right of government to place itself in a position of omnipotence, above and clearly the ruling class of the citizens they were created by and whom they are supposed to be the servants of.
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Old 03-15-2015, 11:23 AM
 
Location: in my imagination
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. Police dogs are considered officers and Rocco will be on Officer Down if he is not already listed. .
Which is a double standard considering how often a citizens dog gets shot by police for just growling at them. Obviously police do not regard a civilian citizens family dog as another citizen with rights yet they expect others to regard their police dog as another police officer.
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