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Arguing that people should be free to discriminate? Opposing the Civil Rights Act and even the 17th Amendment?
If you're somehow unaware of these... well then I don't think I can help you. Try Google.
Wow, so arguing people should be free to discriminate makes you a racist? Does arguing people should be free to smoke marijuana make you a stoner? Does arguing for gay rights make you gay?
Do you believe people should be allowed to discriminate in the private sector?
Seriously? You're not aware of the fact that a huge chunk of Libertarians- including those on this site- are neoconfederates arguing in support of the slave-owning South? And themselves threatening secession movements? Arguing that people should be free to discriminate? Opposing the Civil Rights Act and even the 17th Amendment?
If you're somehow unaware of these... well then I don't think I can help you. Try Google.
Someone who isn't a libertarian calling themselves one does not define the philosophy or ideology of libertarianism.
Secession is not a racist action, it's a federalist action.
Arguing that people should be free to discriminate isn't racist, because we all discriminate all the time, countless times per day. Associations should be voluntary, not forced, and if someone chooses to not associate with someone, whatever their criteria happens to be is perfectly valid in a world of voluntary association. Discrimination is a process of selection and preference, and yes, you do it all the time whether you know or admit it. That's simply arguing for individual freedom and voluntaryism, and I am not sure why anyone would advocate against voluntary association or freedom.
Most folks who say they oppose the Civil Rights Act are not opposing that, but the Affirmative Action and various other "initiation of force" laws that followed it. I do not oppose the Civil Rights Act, but I firmly oppose the compulsory/force junk that followed it. Thing about that is, my opposition to compulsory/force laws has the backing of both the Civil Rights Act itself and the 14th Amendment, both of which classify the institutional racial discrimination inherent in those compulsion/force laws to be illegal. So the confused ideologue might think all of this begins BECAUSE of the CRA, but actually happens IN SPITE OF AND OPPOSED TO the CRA.
And the 17th Amendment should be opposed because the Senate was created to be the federal representation of the states, or more appropriately, the state governments. The House is the chamber of the people, the Senate is the chamber of the states. The 17th Amendment was a blow against federalism that marginalizes the sovereignty of the individual states. It should be opposed by anyone seeking decentralized, more federalist, responsive government.
And none of that is racist. To your other comment about libertarians supporting the ownership of slaves, I'll go ahead and let you provide me with proof of that. You can prove your accusation, and until you do, I hold libertarianism innocent of your scurrilous, hysterical, false charges.
It is actually liberals that think blacks ain't capable of taking care of themselves.
I think you mean "liberals think that people without money aren't capable of purchasing necessities for themselves", although why only liberals know that is beyond me.
"Nations are governments with geographic and political borders. Governments produce nothing ..."
Governments represent the peak level of human cooperation. Cooperation almost always trumps individual effort. This largely accounts for Hamilton's vision (statist) supplanting Jefferson's ideal (libertarian). Even the most accomplished scientist in history, Isaac Newton, acknowledged that "if I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants." As overwhelming as Newton's brilliance was, moreover, it wasn't unparalleled: Leibniz independently discovered calculus in the same period, and it is his notations that prevail today. Likewise, look at the technological progress achieved during WWII. The Manhattan Project alone was more expensive than all of the previous scientific undertakings in the history of the world combined. From 1940 to 1944, federal outlays climbed from 9.6% of GDP to 42.7%. GDP per capita grew by 56.8% and reached a level ($12,333 {1944}) surpassed only two decades later ($12,773 {1964}). Source: Maddison Project.
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"It's a Zen ideology, where perfection is unattainable, but the pursuit of perfection is preferable."
My (limited) understanding of Zen is that every moment is perfect, you just have to recognize it.
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