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Old 03-20-2015, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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And the same BS was tried on us again with Syria.
And we almost invaded Syria.

Thank goodness Russia stepped in and stopped the US in their tracks.
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Old 03-20-2015, 11:41 AM
 
Location: NJ
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They were lied to. So were Republicans. I doubt even the Republicans would have supported that war had they been given the facts and not misled by the White House. Bush and the neocon war mongers cost the country billions of dollars, and thousands of lives and set in motion grave consequences that are reverberating still around the world.
How do you explin the coalition of nations and foreign intel agencies all in agreement?

Sadaam had WMDs as seen on all the news stations along with his bro in law, Chemical Ali, Sadaam would never think of selling some WMDs to a rogue nation or movement that might use it outside the ME. Sadaam invaded kuwait to demonstrate his potential to spread war and domination ourside iraq.

HRC is a sharp tack, don't tell me she would be qualified to be prez if she fell for the liberal declared 'idiot' GWB's 'trick'.

Otherwise you'd have to admit GWB was the smartest man on the planet.
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Old 03-20-2015, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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How do you explin the coalition of nations and foreign intel agencies all in agreement?

Sadaam had WMDs as seen on all the news stations along with his bro in law, Chemical Ali, Sadaam would never think of selling some WMDs to a rogue nation or movement that might use it outside the ME. Sadaam invaded kuwait to demonstrate his potential to spread war and domination ourside iraq.

HRC is a sharp tack, don't tell me she would be qualified to be prez if she fell for the liberal declared 'idiot' GWB's 'trick'.

Otherwise you'd have to admit GWB was the smartest man on the planet.
I agree. She would not put herself in a position where an outright lie came back to her.

Look at Benghazi. It was Rice in front of those TV cameras that weekend, not Hillary, telling the American people the "great lie".
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Old 03-20-2015, 12:25 PM
 
Location: NJ
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I agree. She would not put herself in a position where an outright lie came back to her.

Look at Benghazi. It was Rice in front of those TV cameras that weekend, not Hillary, telling the American people the "great lie".
As on Seinfeld, standing by and allowing a crime to be committed is itself a crime.
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Old 03-20-2015, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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As on Seinfeld, standing by and allowing a crime to be committed is itself a crime.
I don't disagree. It's collusion.
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Old 03-20-2015, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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Here you go, this is apparently the document in question.

http://documents.theblackvault.com/d...ie-01-2015.pdf


Curious how nobody wants to discuss this. I guess they never got past "blame Bush" in their manifestos.
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Old 03-20-2015, 02:25 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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They were lied to. So were Republicans. I doubt even the Republicans would have supported that war had they been given the facts and not misled by the White House.
Good point. Here's the liar, in his own words:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENAV_UoIfgc
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Old 03-20-2015, 02:27 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I wonder why President Clinton did that.
Good question.
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Old 03-20-2015, 02:32 PM
 
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They were lied to. So were Republicans. I doubt even the Republicans would have supported that war had they been given the facts and not misled by the White House. Bush and the neocon war mongers cost the country billions of dollars, and thousands of lives and set in motion grave consequences that are reverberating still around the world.
Ron Paul didn't support it.
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Old 03-20-2015, 03:24 PM
 
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Yes. Read the article and the report. According to one individual:

Pillar added that he was told by congressional aides that only a half-dozen senators and a few House members read past the NIE's five-page summary.

Pillar is now a professor at Georgetown.

By the way, the OP doesn't understand the context of the quote he made in the original post. I dont think he read the article.

My intent isn't to defend or denigrate Bush. It's to point out that congress had access to the information then that we are just seeing now. Support was bi-partisan. If they didn't read it or chose to ignore it, it's wrong to suggest they were lied to.
I understand it and I read it. You and a couple of others decided to assign me to a political party (I despise Dem and Rep, I am neither.). I don't just blame Bush. But Bush was the leader, therefore he deserves the blunt of the blame.


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Sorry to burst your bubble but they all COLLUDED to the propaganda presented to the American people to justify an invasion of Iraq to get them back on the petro dollar for trading oil.

Completely agree.
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