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Old 03-24-2015, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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The US government at the direction of Barack Obama is now accusing Israel of spying on the Iran Nuclear talks, and then using the information it got to influence the US Congress.

Well, of course Israel was spying on the Iran Nuclear talks. Why would even Israel even bother to maintain a spy agency, if not to spy on events like the Iran Nuclear talks, which relate to matters that threaten their existence as a nation?
Supporters of Israel, at least the ones with their brains activated, will quickly see this as more animosity by Obama and the Democrats towards Israel and its Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu.

How did we ever get such a petulant punk for a president? Seriously, these kinds of antics by Barack Obama are an embarrassment to us all.
Just maybe because President Obama got the majority of electoral college votes, not once but twice!
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Old 03-24-2015, 02:09 PM
 
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Actually, you are raising an interesting question.

John Boehner has come out today and said he is not aware of any information being passed by the Israelis to Congress.

So, who was this information supposedly passed to? Or is Barack Obama lying about this, too?
Who knows... Obama just said live on tv that he talked to the Israeli's about the Iran deal now lol
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Old 03-24-2015, 02:14 PM
 
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Can you answer my question?

How could the Congress determine it was a "very bad deal" if they had no idea what was in it?
Nobody argues "they had no idea". The question is where they got the info from. If by Obama, the whole claim about using spies to influence the Congress is meaningless. But if the claim is correct, it means the Congress doesn't get briefed by Obama, which is really bad.
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Old 03-24-2015, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Nobody argues "they had no idea". The question is where they got the info from. If by Obama, the whole claim about using spies to influence the Congress is meaningless. But if the claim is correct, it means the Congress doesn't get briefed by Obama, which is really bad.
The argument by someone was that the Congress "have to" get their information from foreign intelligence because of lack of transparency, so I asked how they were able to determine the deal was "very bad".

Obviously they had the plan.

What additional information (if any) Israelis gave away is unknown. WSJ did not specify it. CIA says they spied, Israel denies it, and that's all we know.
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Old 03-24-2015, 02:30 PM
 
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But this is 2015 and the followers of Christianity probably don't want to cut off your head or annihilate a country for a lack of belief in Jesus. The leaders of Iran do. If they want to start a war with Israel, fine. They have proven their ability to take care of themselves. Just don't allow Iran to have a weapon that puts everyone else at risk.
That weapon doesn't put US at risk.

That's all that matters.
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Old 03-24-2015, 02:37 PM
 
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Another pro-Israel and anti-USA thread. Self haters!
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Old 03-24-2015, 02:39 PM
 
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That weapon doesn't put US at risk.

That's all that matters.
If by having a much more powerful weapon that enables them to reach the US, how are we not at risk?
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Old 03-24-2015, 02:42 PM
 
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Another pro-Israel and anti-USA thread. Self haters!
Being skeptical of President Obama is not anti USA.
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Old 03-24-2015, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Florida
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If by having a much more powerful weapon that enables them to reach the US, how are we not at risk?
We have been 'at risk' for decades, because according to CIA they have had WMDs all along (chemical and biological), they just haven't used them.
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Old 03-24-2015, 03:09 PM
 
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If by having a much more powerful weapon that enables them to reach the US, how are we not at risk?
Having a nuke isn't tantamount to that nuke being able to hit the United States. I mean, why would they even want to hit the United States anyway? It would mean the end of their country.

Besides, I lived under the threat of Russian nukes all of my life. One more nation isn't gonna make much of a difference.
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