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Old 03-25-2015, 11:37 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Like it matters what Leftists do or think.
And does it matter what you do or think? Obviously you do care what "Leftists" do or think, or you wouldn't be here.

I have news for you... Cruz has the same chance of becoming president as pond scum. He is far too extreme and polarizing in his views to ever gain the necessary breadth of appeal. He appeals to extremists, and while they're a vocal bunch, they are ultimately in the minority. So he is doomed from the start. And so is Trump. You probably already knew this.

The only thing worth pointing out with Cruz is that conservatives are hypocrites for going Birther on Obama (on As is of conspiracy rumors and lies) but ignoring it with Cruz, where it is indisputable that he wasn't born here.

 
Old 03-25-2015, 11:40 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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wrong. the hospital name is consistent with the other contemporaneous birth certificates from kapi'olani.

Kapi'olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital - Obama Conspiracy Theories



it doesn't say "african-american".



yep, but not for the reasons you think.




it's not me, it's the birthers, your brethren, who are vocally stating that cruz isn't eligible.
I don't really give a damn, and I'm not a "birther." My reasons for not liking Obama have to do with his ideology. He is a Marxist/socialist bent on destroying ("fundamentally transforming") the United States of America.
 
Old 03-25-2015, 11:45 AM
 
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I'm not really a "birther."
fooled me.

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But I do find it curious why he has been unable to produce a valid birth certificate.
he did, twice.

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The one finally produced was proven to be a forgery,...
wrong. the amateur claims by the "cold case posse" have proven to be false by the standard operating procedures of a xerox workcenter.

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and the questions raised as to the information it contained (Hospital name, Race stated as "African-American") are valid questions.
it doesn't say "african-american". one of your "valid questions" can be debunked by possessing nothing more than eyesight! as for the hospital name it is consistent with all the other contemporaneous birth certificates.
 
Old 03-25-2015, 11:48 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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The only thing worth pointing out with Cruz is that conservatives are hypocrites for going Birther on Obama (on basis of conspiracy rumors and lies) but ignoring it with Cruz, where it is indisputable that he wasn't born here.
And that is the point of every Leftist post on this thread ... "payback," is it not? Glad you admitted it.

As for where Ted Cruz was born it doesn't matter. He is a "natural born citizen" according to the definition which has been affirmed by the Supreme Court previously. A number of Constitutional attorneys have commented on this and affirmed it. In other words, that ship has sailed, and it is pointless to try to debate this in Cruz' case. It's a dead issue.
 
Old 03-25-2015, 11:48 AM
 
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I don't really give a damn, and I'm not a "birther."
great, then live up to your name and stop promoting birther nonsense.
 
Old 03-25-2015, 11:50 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Ted Cruz will not win.
I wouldn't place any bets.
 
Old 03-25-2015, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I just read that one of the teenage mutant ninja turtles has legally changed his name because he didn't want to be confused with this wack-o-bird.
 
Old 03-25-2015, 11:53 AM
 
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He is a "natural born citizen" according to the definition which has been affirmed by the Supreme Court previously..
no, the SCOTUS has never affirmed such a definition of NBC.
 
Old 03-25-2015, 11:53 AM
 
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And that is the point of every Leftist post on this thread ... "payback," is it not? Glad you admitted it.
Sure. I like to point out stupidity and hypocrisy where I see it. Glad you don't try to deny it.

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As for where Ted Cruz was born it doesn't matter. He is a "natural born citizen" according to the definition which has been affirmed by the Supreme Court previously. A number of Constitutional attorneys have commented on this and affirmed it. In other words, that ship has sailed, and it is pointless to try to debate this in Cruz' case. It's a dead issue.
I don't doubt it. I'm not actually a Birther; I'm pointing out how stupid and hypocritical conservatives were to be Birthers in one case but not the other. At least Trump of all people has some shred of consistency in his spiel on this. Sure, Cruz will be eligible to run, and he is by all accounts a smart guy. But he won't win because he is far too extreme for most Americans. You can't win elections with just loony toons appeal.
 
Old 03-25-2015, 12:22 PM
 
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I'm not a "birther." Obama's mother was a U.S. citizen. But I do find it curious why he has been unable to produce a valid birth certificate. The one finally produced was proven to be a forgery, and the questions raised as to the information it contained (Hospital name, Race stated as "African-American") are valid questions.
You are obviously willing to lie about not being a birther.
What else are you lying about?
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