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What would you rather do as a baker? Sell unknowingly to a child molester candied cup cakes he uses to seduce children with, or sell a wedding cake to a gay couple getting married?
But having laws on the books that would protect business owners from being sued for not providing services to gays and lesbians flies in the face of being "open for business," Cook said in his lengthy piece.
"These bills rationalize injustice by pretending to defend something many of us hold dear. They go against the very principles our nation was founded on, and they have the potential to undo decades of progress toward greater equality," wrote Cook, the leader of Silicon Valley's $740 billion tech juggernaut who last year came out as gay.
Key phrase - "decades of progress." He is not only "gay" he is a "Progressive." He believes in government forced "equality," which is achieved through depriving others of their Liberty and Freedom.
No one should be forced to be a participant in an activity, public or private, that violates their religious beliefs; i.e., that they would consider sin. Providing services for those who are practicing what is considered to be sin, would be actively participating in that sinful behavior. They should have the right to refuse such service.
Key phrase - "decades of progress." He is not only "gay" he is a "Progressive." He believes in government forced "equality," which is achieved through depriving others of their Liberty and Freedom.
No one should be forced to be a participant in an activity, public or private, that violates their religious beliefs; i.e., that they would consider sin. Providing services for those who are practicing what is considered to be sin, would be actively participating in that sinful behavior. They should have the right to refuse such service.
That's how it should be. People should have the right to turn away business if it conflicts with their right to practice their religion freely. Forcing someone to provide a service that violates their religious freedom is stripping them of their First Amendment rights.
Anyone denying someone service based on religious reasons has to prove that it directly conflicts their beliefs -- this law does not allow people free reign to discriminate at will. People who are bringing up Jim Crow and the KKK are as guilty of groundless, slippery slope scare tactics as people who say gay marriage will lead to people marrying their dogs.
the simple fact is we have two compeating "rights"
Nope. You're wrong. The two rights are the same right, enumerated in the Constitution, just expressed by people who hold to opposing religious beliefs.
Your comment is too vague. Please be more explicit about what you really mean, so that the ridiculous nature of what you're trying to claim is more evident.
My comment is self-evident.
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There is nothing unjust about requiring proprietors to treat all customers equally.
So it would be unjust for a bar to refuse to serve an obviously intoxicated patron?
What is unjust is denying the right of freedom of voluntary associaton to business owners by requiring them under law to serve ALL would-be customers. Common sense and profit motive dictate that a business should serve all would-be customers, the law should not.
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Sure you did - right at the top of this reply, claiming that laws requiring proprietors to treat all customers equally were unjust.
I never claimed that there should be no consequence to violating laws. Stop trying to put words into my mouth.
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Which it has, even if you personally want to retract the consent given on your behalf by your ancestors. Again, if you don't like the deal they made for you then blame them. Hate on your parents and grandparents for birthing you in this "most horrible" nation.
My white ancestors gave several measured inches, but the govt has taken many miles - sometimes by force. My Native American ancestors gave NO consent to that which was forced upon them. Claiming that blame lies with one's ancestors rather than with the government is just an attempt to excuse decades of governmental wrongdoing by claiming that people are obligated to flee a government which is free to do as it wishes.
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It's an attempt to legitimize bigotry and hate
Statists are so myopic, they'll never understand that disagreement can stem from sources other than hatred. Bless your hearts...
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Rather, requiring proprietors to treat all customers equally is what's right.
You still refuse to answer the question: why should a business owner be required by law to trade with anyone and everyone who wishes to do business? IOW, why does the customer's desire to trade with a particular business trump the desire of said business to trade with only the customers whom it wishes?
So watching the right wing defend Indiana has been amazing but now they are conflating gays with pedophilia, bestiality and necrophilia. I wish I was joking. These right wing blogs have gone nuts. If you think this was about cakes and flowers, you are deluding yourself.
Nope. You're wrong. The two rights are the same right, enumerated in the Constitution, just expressed by people who hold to opposing religious beliefs.
Where in the Constitution can I find the right to buy a wedding cake or flowers ?
Then there are Christian denominations that are based on the ideology of the Christian Identity movement that misinterprets Scripture on a racial basis.
There, I fixed it for ya.
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