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Old 03-26-2015, 02:51 PM
 
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NCAA pres issues statement. Could it mark the end of big events such as the Big 10 Title Football game and others?

Statement on Indiana religious freedom bill | NCAA Home Page - NCAA.org
The NCAA itself is a forced association that used what is a long extinct economy of scale and monopoly to control universities. The SEC, leading the other power conferences on its coat tails, is going to show everyone including the NCAA what voluntary association means sometime in the next 10 years max. The big news is the NCAA needs the schools more than the schools need the NCAA. If the power conferences take their ball and go home and start their own football and basketball tournaments, the NCAA is screwed.

So this is a flea trying to threaten an elephant.

Let the NCAA boycott Indiana. Good for them. Won't mean a thing to the B12 Ten, not in a few years anyway. Just stay tuned.
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Old 03-26-2015, 02:54 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Money speaks.
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Old 03-26-2015, 02:55 PM
 
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Private businesses should be allowed the FREEDOM to refuse service to anyone they choose.
What was missing in the bill is a requirement by the businesses to label just who they will refuse service to. Be specific. Say you not service gay customers, etc. Put it on a sign at the door.

Then those of us who are repelled by it can take our business elsewhere.
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Old 03-26-2015, 02:58 PM
 
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I love this. States actually following the constitution. Imagine that.
I love it too. I hope it costs Indiana a lot of money.
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Old 03-26-2015, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Do 3% of the population not deserve the same rights as the other 97%? Tell us, what is the magic number percentage-wise that an American group must reach before they are eligible for equal protection under the law?
Ask the smokers. They're about 20% of the population and are constantly being harassed and vilified. But that's ok, because smoking is yucky.
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Old 03-26-2015, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I love it too. I hope it costs Indiana a lot of money.
This will not be a happy ending for Indiana several businesses have already threatened, the NCAA's and the Gamers have threatened to hold their tournaments elsewhere.

Pence signs bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers - CNN.com
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Old 03-26-2015, 03:07 PM
 
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Benioff makes good on threat to Indiana - Business Insider

Freedom works both ways.
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Old 03-26-2015, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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The NCAA itself is a forced association that used what is a long extinct economy of scale and monopoly to control universities. The SEC, leading the other power conferences on its coat tails, is going to show everyone including the NCAA what voluntary association means sometime in the next 10 years max. The big news is the NCAA needs the schools more than the schools need the NCAA. If the power conferences take their ball and go home and start their own football and basketball tournaments, the NCAA is screwed.

So this is a flea trying to threaten an elephant.

Let the NCAA boycott Indiana. Good for them. Won't mean a thing to the B12 Ten, not in a few years anyway. Just stay tuned.
It won't end with the NCAA. Indiana may never see a Super Bowl or an NBA All-star game either. I doubt much of what you claim for the NCAA will come to fruition any time soon. Over-all this bill will hurt the state more then anything.
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Old 03-26-2015, 03:13 PM
 
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Looks like Indiana is about to lose Gen Con as well, which brings in an excess of 50,000 people every year to Indianapolis. Lots of small businesses are going to feel the hit.

Man, was this ever a stupid decision.
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Old 03-26-2015, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Not when someone puts themselves out there by owning a business, though. That business must cater to ALL.
Why? What magic happens when someone applies for a business license that makes them lose their first amendment rights?

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Your brand of Freedom is another's loss of Freedom. That is not Freedom. That is not Liberty and Justice for ALL.
And what is it called when you require me, through the force of law, to associate with someone I might not want to associate with? My only alternative, if I want to retain my 1st amendment rights in that situation, is to shut down my business, put my employees out of work and lose my livelihood.

Why do you hate the middle class so much?
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