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Old 04-01-2015, 03:07 PM
 
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That lawyers may lie is certainly true. One needs only examine our legislators to demonstrate that. It is however unethical and relatively rare. This guy said they changed the email retention period to 60 days. That would not, of itself, overwrite anything. Reclaiming space does not overwrite anything either.

I have been in the IT business about 12 years longer than you and I actually designed hard disk algorithms.

Hillary met all her duties to the government. I see no reason why she would allow a hostile political entity to examine her emails. And even a neutral party provides an opportunity for disclosure and violation of her privacy.
You again are really beyond comprehension. If she did not want to work for the American people and open herself up to criticism, she shouldn't have taken the job, period. Those emails do not belong to her, and instead belong to the American people.
She choose to intertwine her personal emails with work related ones, and obviously did so in a very calculating and secretive way. For you to now come along, koolaid drinker and all, and to say it is her prerogative what she does with them, is beyond the pale.
She made her bed, and now she is expected to sleep in it. However she is so arrogant that she believes she has the right to determine which emails to release and which ones to destroy. Even non koolaid drinking (D's) think she is wrong on this, but the zealots will back her to the gates of hell, then follow her in if she asked them to.
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Old 04-01-2015, 04:49 PM
 
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You again are really beyond comprehension. If she did not want to work for the American people and open herself up to criticism, she shouldn't have taken the job, period. Those emails do not belong to her, and instead belong to the American people.
She choose to intertwine her personal emails with work related ones, and obviously did so in a very calculating and secretive way. For you to now come along, koolaid drinker and all, and to say it is her prerogative what she does with them, is beyond the pale.
She made her bed, and now she is expected to sleep in it. However she is so arrogant that she believes she has the right to determine which emails to release and which ones to destroy. Even non koolaid drinking (D's) think she is wrong on this, but the zealots will back her to the gates of hell, then follow her in if she asked them to.
Unmitigated nonsense. She is the one with the decision authority as to what is government related and what is not. More so unlike most government employees she is the decision maker on what is classified and what is not.

Messages belong to the government only if Clinton decides they do.

The dislike for Clinton is clouding the right wing mind to such an extent that the obvious is missed.
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Old 04-01-2015, 06:37 PM
 
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Unmitigated nonsense. She is the one with the decision authority as to what is government related and what is not. More so unlike most government employees she is the decision maker on what is classified and what is not.

Messages belong to the government only if Clinton decides they do.

The dislike for Clinton is clouding the right wing mind to such an extent that the obvious is missed.
It's more like your partisan liberal devotion has robbed you of all critical thinking capacity.

According to your reasoning, this means the President could decide that our nuclear launch codes aren't government related or classified and post them up on the internet.
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Old 04-01-2015, 06:57 PM
 
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It's more like your partisan liberal devotion has robbed you of all critical thinking capacity.

According to your reasoning, this means the President could decide that our nuclear launch codes aren't government related or classified and post them up on the internet.
Who would stop him? We elect or appoint these people because we trust their judgment.

And we give them authority because we believe they will do the right thing. If they don't there is a procedure. But no we do not get to second guess each decision.
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Old 04-01-2015, 07:04 PM
 
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If the State Dept. redacts any "national security issues", the secondary jaws of Hillary's self-induced perjury trap will be sprung.
They are in cahoots with her, so they will cover for her any way they can. Even if some of the emails are redacted, it would just be one more lie on top of the others she has already told. Sadly her koolaid drinking zealots will continue to support her no matter what. It will just be interesting to see how many regular folks are gullible enough to think she should be president.
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Old 04-01-2015, 11:53 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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She should have had all emails on a government server, every cabinet employee should be required to provide access as do other lower level employees, bad move on her part. The bottom line is that she did not break any laws and she did produce around 50,000 emails, unless there is something that shows some wrong doing this accomplishes nothing.

If they hadn't spent 10 years chasing after her on Benghazi this might be a revelation but it appears to be more of the same attacks. Instead of discussing more critical issues this is what passes for progress, time to move on.

10 years . BENGHAZI was only 3 years ago. Don't bogart that doob.
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Old 04-02-2015, 12:07 AM
 
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Unmitigated nonsense. She is the one with the decision authority as to what is government related and what is not. More so unlike most government employees she is the decision maker on what is classified and what is not.

Messages belong to the government only if Clinton decides they do.

The dislike for Clinton is clouding the right wing mind to such an extent that the obvious is missed.


No, she is not the decision maker.
That is where your misunderstanding lies.
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Old 04-02-2015, 12:41 AM
 
Location: Oceania
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Unmitigated nonsense. She is the one with the decision authority as to what is government related and what is not. More so unlike most government employees she is the decision maker on what is classified and what is not.

Messages belong to the government only if Clinton decides they do.

The dislike for Clinton is clouding the right wing mind to such an extent that the obvious is missed.

What branch of the government have you worked for; as a civil servant or sub contractor? Anything you do belongs to them, especially if you have any sort of clearance; which she did. Poll the employees of the federal government who do and find out. I have worked for them directly as well as indirectly for years and a security officer was up my a$$ as I dealt with classified materials on a daily basis. I can't recall how many burn bags I filled/surrounded to them. I surrendered hundreds of HDs and reels of tape to them to wipe as well. Something as trivial as a 5 digit number was TS.

You don't mess with NASA, their satellites or what they are for. Who knows what space shuttles or Delta rockets would take up there and put into orbit? That's real military TS stuff very few know of. The SOS doesn't make the call on what is classified. There are others with greater powers who make those decisions.

The plates used for printing money are hidden away and guarded more heavily than most would ever believe. The same is true for the pallets of finished bills. The ink and rolls of blank paper used for printing bills are classified and guarded just as tightly. Everything the BEP holds may as well be POTUS in the manner it is guarded.
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Old 04-02-2015, 06:28 AM
 
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Benghazi panel summons Clinton


Benghazi panel summons Clinton | TheHill


Ha, wingnut Gowdy wants the meeting in private. Why not a public hearing like HRC wants, what's Gowdy afraid of.........lolololol.
Possibly the gentleman is trying to save your Queen from embarrassment! Did you think about this!
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Old 04-02-2015, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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That lawyers may lie is certainly true. One needs only examine our legislators to demonstrate that. It is however unethical and relatively rare. This guy said they changed the email retention period to 60 days. That would not, of itself, overwrite anything. Reclaiming space does not overwrite anything either.

I have been in the IT business about 12 years longer than you and I actually designed hard disk algorithms.

Hillary met all her duties to the government. I see no reason why she would allow a hostile political entity to examine her emails. And even a neutral party provides an opportunity for disclosure and violation of her privacy.
Reclaiming free space makes previously used space available for reuse - and will be over written over time.

I can't believe you think Hillary didn't do more than "delete" emails by shortening the retention. It is also clear that she did NOT meet her duties to the government. She at minimum violated federal law requiring emails to be archived. She has already lied about using one device.

I have no sympathy for her need to protect privacy. Every company that runs its own email asserts ownership of the email infrastructure. No employee has privacy of email sent or received using their employer's email system. The federal government is the same way. Hillary deliberately chose to avoid using government infrastructure for email to retain as much control over her email as possible. She should NEVER have consciously mixed personal and work email.
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