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Old 03-29-2015, 06:12 PM
 
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Obama is far left. Have you read any of his books?
Sorry PM. My mother was mildly far left. She considered Obama virtually a right winger. You simply don't know anyone far left. Look up Amand Hennesy and the Catholic Workers Movement. That was far left.
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Old 03-29-2015, 06:22 PM
 
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Sorry PM. My mother was mildly far left. She considered Obama virtually a right winger. You simply don't know anyone far left. Look up Amand Hennesy and the Catholic Workers Movement. That was far left.
You didn't answer my question. If you read his books you would know that he is far left.
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Old 03-29-2015, 06:33 PM
 
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You didn't answer my question. If you read his books you would know that he is far left.
I have read his books. Though I don't find such worth a deep read. What he does is much more interesting. Take your nose out of the books and watch...it is what he does...not what he says or writes.
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Old 03-29-2015, 06:38 PM
 
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I have read his books. Though I don't find such worth a deep read. What he does is much more interesting. Take your nose out of the books and watch...it is what he does...not what he says or writes.
Are you serious? This idiot thought it was prudent to make a deal with an Ayatollah who still leads the people in chants of death to America.
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Old 03-29-2015, 08:09 PM
 
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Are you serious? This idiot thought it was prudent to make a deal with an Ayatollah who still leads the people in chants of death to America.
YOu are of the belief that there is some other Ayatollah who does not lead such chants?

I suppose we could just nuke them. That turn you on?
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Old 03-29-2015, 08:42 PM
 
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Have you really such a short term memory? You don't remember the lawyer scandals in the Bush DofJ?

Why on earth would you quote a DofJ where impeachment was strongly considered...except it was all so petty that it was hard to do.
Facts are facts. Democrats are indicted on corruption charges at significantly higher rates than Republicans even under Democrat administrations. Spin all you want, doesn't change a thing.
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Old 03-29-2015, 09:29 PM
 
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Facts are facts. Democrats are indicted on corruption charges at significantly higher rates than Republicans even under Democrat administrations. Spin all you want, doesn't change a thing.
Source?
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Old 03-29-2015, 09:47 PM
 
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On my...the Clinton apologists and sycophants are swarming like a kicked over red ant hill. Lol. Hardly shocking. I really like the lost about how neither Obama or Billary are far left. That , considering ANY Republican candidate is a RWNJ to a Dem. The Dems these days won't settle for anything less than the Capitol being moved to Berserkely. Lol...sorry, couldn't resist a little...return extremism.

Moving on..The dynasty big caught my attention as well. Even if I happened to be a Dem, I couldn't support HRC, based on that alone. Another Bush or Clinton in the WH just scares me senseless. Its like America has its own Royal Family with those sets. Enough is enough. It does paint a mental picture of what Hilarys' version of the Lewinsky scandal would look like. & what her apologists would be saying. Let's hope we don't have to find out.
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Old 03-29-2015, 10:17 PM
 
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I was watching a fairly liberal political talk show (especially since Tim Russert passed away) about the Hillary email scandal. There was a total koolaid drinker on trying to defend the indefeasible, yet she kept droning on.
Even the host Chuck Todd (who is a (D) apologist) was countering this woman's defense, yet she is such a zealot she could not help but be an apologist for Hillary. This despite the obvious attempts on her part to try to deflect reasoned criticism of her actions.

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People like this are obvious examples of why conservatives are critical of the zealots who would defend Hillary, even if a video surfaced of her strangling puppies and kittens. The thing many zealots do not realize is that moderates (including sensible women) are not buying the convenience crap Hillary is peddling. If her past was clean and her closet empty, she and her minions might be able to pull the wool over regular people eyes.
However considering how polarizing she is and the reasons that caused such a perception, she will not get the free ride liberal (D's) had hoped she would.

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Overzealous apologists are everywhere in politics, but in this case, it doesn't matter. People don't care about this issue. You may as well bring up old Vince Foster arguments, this email scandal isn't going anywhere.
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Old 03-30-2015, 02:37 AM
 
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I won't defend Hillary's actions here. She's crooked as hell.

But I'll vote for her anyway. Considering what the Republicans have become (and I used to be one), I'd vote for even a known crooked Democrat over an honest Republican (which as we all know, are as rare as Sasquatch).
I never understood how people can blindly view politics like you do. The yellow dog (D's) had their historical reasons for not wanting to vote for an (R), but I doubt that includes you.
So to think you would vote for an under qualified, corrupt and polarizing person like Hillary over any (R) is frankly sad.

I have voted for both parties even though I vote (R) much more often. If the (R's) nominated someone equivalent to Hillary, I could not bring myself to vote for them even as a lesser of two evils type of thinking.

Lastly, I have heard the refrain of the (R's) have changed so much. Yet if you were to look at where the R's & D's have been in just the last 30 years compared to today, you'd find the D's are the ones who have changed the most.
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