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Old 04-02-2015, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Obama supports a hand gun ban? Never heard that one before, though he seems to be doing a poor job then because in 5 years he hasn't done much for banning guns, though he has helped the gun industry increase profits by selling to scared gun nuts.
Obama's views have changed with time - USATODAY.com

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In 1996, when he was running for a seat in the Illinois Senate, Obama's campaign filled out a questionnaire...
That 1996 questionnaire asked whether he supported banning the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns in Illinois. The campaign's answer was straightforward: "Yes." Eight years later, he said on another questionnaire that "a complete ban on handguns is not politically practicable" but reasonable restrictions should be imposed.
Note that Obama also said that he stood on the side of Washington D.C. in the D.C. vs Heller case, which had to do with whether DC could keep its handgun ban in place.

It is true that he has not done a lot to ban guns during his 5 years. But that is because the NRA & GOP have stood in the way. It would be like arguing that W Bush wasn't really against abortion restrictions, because after all he was able get virtually none enacted during his 8 years.
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Old 04-02-2015, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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So we should allow the trampling of civil rights in some areas because other areas do not trample civil rights?
Well right wingers do champion state rights and letting states make choices for themselves. You happen to be the minority where you live, which sucks for you, but not Obama's fault. You could always move to a state with much looser gun laws that would make you much happier. That is what I would do if I were you.
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Old 04-02-2015, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Obama's views have changed with time - USATODAY.com



Note that Obama also said that he stood on the side of Washington D.C. in the D.C. vs Heller case, which had to do with whether DC could keep its handgun ban in place.

It is true that he has not done a lot to ban guns during his 5 years. But that is because the NRA & GOP have stood in the way. It would be like arguing that W Bush wasn't really against abortion restrictions, because after all he was able get virtually none enacted during his 8 years.
A questionnaire from 1996 about state politics? Nice one, though the article goes on to show that like many, he supports some restrictions rather than a complete ban. So nobody is going to take your guns away, but feel free to stock up, it is good for the economy.
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Old 04-02-2015, 01:19 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Well right wingers do champion state rights and letting states make choices for themselves. You happen to be the minority where you live, which sucks for you, but not Obama's fault. You could always move to a state with much looser gun laws that would make you much happier. That is what I would do if I were you.
I was unaware states rights ment you could violate the bill of rights. Glad you are here to educate us urbanlife
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Old 04-02-2015, 01:24 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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A questionnaire from 1996 about state politics? Nice one, though the article goes on to show that like many, he supports some restrictions rather than a complete ban. So nobody is going to take your guns away, but feel free to stock up, it is good for the economy.
He wants a complete ban on the majority of weapons, like hand guns and semi automatic rifles. Of course this makes up 90% of guns purchased today. Of course this is just some reasonable restrictions.
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Old 04-02-2015, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I was unaware states rights ment you could violate the bill of rights. Glad you are here to educate us urbanlife
Well there are many court cases that says gun restrictions are okay. I would have figured you were aware of this, but then again you could stay in a state that denies you from owning every gun under the sun that you hope for.

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He wants a complete ban on the majority of weapons, like hand guns and semi automatic rifles. Of course this makes up 90% of guns purchased today. Of course this is just some reasonable restrictions.
Guns! Guns! Guns!
Get your guns before Obama takes them all away!

Now that is a banner for a gun shop that would have their guns flying off the shelves.
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Old 04-02-2015, 01:42 PM
 
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Well right wingers do champion state rights and letting states make choices for themselves.
You cannot get any more local than your individual rights granted by the Constitution that trump all government entities.
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Old 04-02-2015, 01:42 PM
 
Location: North America
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Yeah! State's Broke, pension system is a bust, schools are in shambles, but lets make sure everyone can carry a gun! #priorities
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Old 04-02-2015, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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You cannot get any more local than your individual rights granted by the Constitution that trump all government entities.
So now you guys don't like State Rights? Convenient.
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Old 04-02-2015, 01:48 PM
 
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So now you guys don't like State Rights? Convenient.
It's not convenient at all and your argument is lame. I've always championed individual rights over the state. More power to the state and even more power to the individual.
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