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Old 04-01-2015, 07:56 PM
 
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Bryan Caplan is a well known economist who often blogs in support of open borders. Listen to these arguments. I'm more interested in how Mircea counters this.



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Old 04-01-2015, 08:00 PM
 
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Didn't listen, but is it America's job to increase the wealth of other countries?

Do you truly not believe open borders would decrease the wealth and quality of life in America?
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Old 04-01-2015, 08:07 PM
 
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Didn't listen, but is it America's job to increase the wealth of other countries?

Do you truly not believe open borders would decrease the wealth and quality of life in America?


It would make Americans richer according to economic theory.
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Old 04-01-2015, 08:14 PM
 
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if immigrants were going to make americans wealthier, then why didnt they make Mexico better?
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Old 04-01-2015, 08:18 PM
 
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if immigrants were going to make americans wealthier, then why didnt they make Mexico richer?

Mexico doesn't have much opportunities for robust economic productivity due to corruption and available credit. It's very hard to start a business in Mexico. The US has a common law that makes economy more prosperous.
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Old 04-01-2015, 08:20 PM
 
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His theory and agenda would certainly put the nail in the coffin for America. Open borders? We'd be finished.

No other 1st country would entertain or allow such nonsense.
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Old 04-01-2015, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Didn't listen, but is it America's job to increase the wealth of other countries?

Do you truly not believe open borders would decrease the wealth and quality of life in America?
It's America's obligation as world superpower and "land of immigrants" right? America can serve as a sacrificial lamb to help out the rest of the world. Think of it as charity lol....
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Old 04-01-2015, 08:31 PM
 
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Mexico doesn't have much opportunities for robust economic productivity due to corruption and available credit. It's very hard to start a business in Mexico. The US has a common law that makes economy more prosperous.
Its not at all hard to start a business in Mexico, in fact it takes about 1 day more than the US, thats it.

Furthermore, that doesnt make us richer, because a mexican coming here and providing a service, simply means that someone here already, cant provide the same service.. Having a mexican clean your pool, doesnt decrease poverty, it might there, because they arent living there, but it increases it here because it increases the supply of labor, decreases the demand, and lower wages.

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Old 04-01-2015, 08:37 PM
 
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Its not at all hard to start a business in Mexico, in fact it takes about 1 day more than the US, thats it.

Furthermore, that doesnt make us richer, because a mexican coming here and providing a service, simply means that someone here already, cant provide the same service.. Having a mexican clean your pool, doesnt decrease poverty, it might there, because they arent living there, but it increases it here because it increases the supply of labor, decreases the demand, and lower wages.

Yes, but that Mexican worker creates demand, which would create a job for a native.
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Old 04-01-2015, 08:41 PM
 
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Yes, but that Mexican worker creates demand, which would create a job for a native.
They dont create the demand, they meet the demand.. People want others to cut their grass for example.

If I pay a mexican $30 to cut my grass vs an american $50 if the mexican wasnt around to hire, decreased poverty how?
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