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Old 04-05-2015, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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The vast majority of Californians won't migrate until it's a crisis - when there's no water coming from their taps. They'll be like the Katrina people -- who lacked the wherewithal to get away from the hurricane -- on steroids.

Leftists have cognitive disorders that prevent them from thinking clearly and formulating a plan of action that makes sense.

There was a private consortium who proposed a combination nuclear power plant and desalination plant down south. The liberal environmentalists would never let it happen.
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Old 04-05-2015, 01:15 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Why are people so irritated? Given the situation it is only logical that drastic steps have to be taken. Actually, a reduction of 25% will only be the first step, water consumption could easily be reduced by 50% in many cases. The problem is that people are like children complaining when their parents tell them what to do after they have screwed up big time. But since people have not changed their habits voluntarily despite warnings, there needs to be coercion. The government has the responsibility to think of the future well-being of the entire state, not the wishes of the mob and lobbying groups.

If people don't want to change their way of life, they should move to Michigan
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Old 04-05-2015, 01:16 PM
 
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Why can't the farmer pay a better wage so Americans will want to work there?

But then...the farmer can do nothing about the work ethic of workers who want to work 1/2 days and long lunches...
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Old 04-05-2015, 01:20 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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California should never have become so dependent on agriculture in the first place. There is way too little water for that in a natural way.
And they grow the wrong stuff there, plants that consume a lot of water.
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Old 04-05-2015, 01:22 PM
 
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There was a private consortium who proposed a combination nuclear power plant and desalination plant down south. The liberal environmentalists would never let it happen.
Stupidity kills California.

Too bad, so sad.
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Old 04-05-2015, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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When the faucets don't spew water anymore is when the panic will start.

Until then the laws will mean nothing as I read that many don't even have meters so how can they be policed ?
Then you have the cheaters who will continue to water those lawns at 3am when everyone else is sleeping.
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Old 04-05-2015, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Why can't the farmer pay a better wage so Americans will want to work there?

But then...the farmer can do nothing about the work ethic of workers who want to work 1/2 days and long lunches...

Why can't the consumer pay more so the farmer can pay better wages?
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Old 04-05-2015, 02:13 PM
 
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It's the same in California. Going after people over lawns and long showers is not going to do much to alleviate any shortage. And golf courses have very large economic benefits as well. Letting them dry up would be a big financial mistake, more for AZ of course where tourism is a pillar of the economy and a far larger contributor to GDP than ag, but in CA as well. Fortunately, AZ is not looking at any dire drought or water restrictions at this time.
Ehhh...not so sure about that. Arizona is in trouble too...more than folks think we are.

There will come a point at which some serious choices will have to get made. We're in the desert, and it's high time we act like it.

Lawns and many golf courses will have to go..economic impact be damned. Same thing about building new homes with swimming pools. That's gonna have to come under more scrutiny too.

I'm no longer in Maricopa County, but down here in Cochise County, it's dead serious. Few years ago, they rejected a developer's plans on several hundred new homes until they could come up with a water plan. Those homes still haven't been built.
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Old 04-05-2015, 02:24 PM
 
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Is this enough proof??????

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So wages need to go UP. It is what it is. The farmers got addicted to "slave labor"; they remind me of the rich Southerners being upset over losing THEIR slave help in 1865.
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Old 04-05-2015, 02:26 PM
 
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Ehhh...not so sure about that. Arizona is in trouble too...more than folks think we are.

There will come a point at which some serious choices will have to get made. We're in the desert, and it's high time we act like it.

Lawns and many golf courses will have to go..economic impact be damned. Same thing about building new homes with swimming pools. That's gonna have to come under more scrutiny too.

I'm no longer in Maricopa County, but down here in Cochise County, it's dead serious. Few years ago, they rejected a developer's plans on several hundred new homes until they could come up with a water plan. Those homes still haven't been built.
I've heard about Cochise having a bad time of it like you said.
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