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Who is paying any more? In the 80s, Reagan mandated hospitals could no longer turn away folks based on $. Tax money was used to then fund hospitals for unfunded care. So that guy now with ACA where you and I paid $200 for an office visit, under St. Ronald's mandate, we started paying 5x that, since w/o insurance, he went to the ER with a common cold.
This is correct. Reagan's mandate that anyone without ability to pay and arrives in an ER must be seen, is directly related to the increased cost of medical care for everyone.
We could call it Reagancare.
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The 1986 Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act, which contained the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act. The law requires hospitals to treat patients in need of emergency care regardless of their ability to pay, citizenship or even legal status. It applies to any hospital that takes Medicare funds, which is virtually every hospital in the country.
They agree to cover their residents and the Supreme Court deems it illegal. The blame will be pushed right back to where it belongs. Gruber already stated they knew it was probably illegal and pushed it anyway because the ends justifies the means and Americans are too stupid to know what's good for them.
The democrats will take the blame.
"The Democrats will take the blame" You silly man you, you almost had us with your humor! The ones in power always take the blame, no matter if it's their fault, or not . The left would be watering at the mouth if this happened, because this would be an election fantasy for them. Not only would this dominate the 2016 elections in terms of news, the right would then have to capitulate and set up their own exchanges in an attempt to avoid commiting seppuku.
Oh indeed! Any of the right who insist that people will someone champion the Republicans in this instance is sorely deprived of Oxygen. The Republicans would be scrambling to set up state exchanges over fear that 2016 would turn into a massacre.
Because contrary to your delusions, we can't just print money indefinitely.
Liberals in America always make reference to those great utopias like Canada, the UK, Germany et al and their great social benefits. What they don't want is the regressive tax structure needed to fund those programs.
You can go back a few thousand posts and see my position. Kill the ACA. Pass a basic universal national health program funded by a payroll tax no different than FICA. Everyone pays. Everyone. Slowly phase in the program so that basic and routine care is a given. Like Germany, the secondary insurance market can stop-gap on the other end.
End the nonsense ER visits. Force non-citizens to pay for their care.
The ACA is just welfare. Almost all the participants are on expanded Medicare getting huge subsidies at the expense of the middle class. I'm well off and if I have to pay a little more, it isn't going to kill me, but you need to pay your fair share also. Got it?
We actually have enough to fund it. We just feel that we need to spend it on an oversized military in order to constantly play the worlds policeman. If we spent per capita what most other Countries do, and allowed the rest of the world to clean up their own messes, then we would have plenty to pay for programs such as that.
They agree to cover their residents and the Supreme Court deems it illegal. The blame will be pushed right back to where it belongs. Gruber already stated they knew it was probably illegal and pushed it anyway because the ends justifies the means and Americans are too stupid to know what's good for them.
The democrats will take the blame.
Oh no we won't. Don't try and pull that ****. It's your side that's been trying as hard as you can to take away people's insurance
Democratic lawmakers passed a law without reading what was in it, and one with major, basic flaws. And somehow Republican governors are to blame? Nice try, but even the public isn't that stupid.
Maybe they will ask Nancy and company just why they voted for something without knowing what was in it.
They voted Obama in twice didn't they ? I think you might want to rethink just how little the general public pays attention to these things. The majority only will know that they or their loved ones had insurance, and now they don't. They aren't going to care if it's the Democrats fault, Obamas, or Mother ****ing Teresa. These people will pick up the phone and dial their local representative. Now just how well do you think they are going to react when their Republican rep tells them that it's the Democrats fault for not reading the law correctly and they have no real plan in place because the ACA is a jobs killer anyway?
I swear some of you people have never seen an election in your lives the way you talk. The Republicans would be DECIMATED in the election if that happened. So not only would every red state set up an exchange, they will tout the facts that they did it to rise above what they view as a terrible law in order to service their citizens.
Oh no we won't. Don't try and pull that ****. It's your side that's been trying as hard as you can to take away people's insurance
I'm sure Trapper was one of the ones who swore that Obama would get routed in 2012 because "People just aren't that stupid" .
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. The left would be watering at the mouth if this happened, because this would be an election fantasy for them. Not only would this dominate the 2016 elections in terms of news, the right would then have to capitulate and set up their own exchanges in an attempt to avoid commiting seppuku.
? I think you might want to rethink just how little the general public pays attention to these things. The majority only will know that they or their loved ones had insurance, and now they don't. They aren't going to care if it's the Democrats fault, Obamas, or Mother ****ing Teresa. These people will pick up the phone and dial their local representative. Now just how well do you think they are going to react when their Republican rep tells them that it's the Democrats fault for not reading the law correctly and they have no real plan in place because the ACA is a jobs killer anyway? 
