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Old 04-08-2015, 10:45 AM
 
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he might want to get Rev Wright and stand in front of a mirror. Never heard anyone so hateful in my life claiming to be a Christian.
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Old 04-08-2015, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Stasis
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he might want to get Rev Wright and stand in front of a mirror. Never heard anyone so hateful in my life claiming to be a Christian.
Then you are not paying attention to rfra supporters and the far right nutters.
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Old 04-08-2015, 10:56 AM
 
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This is what you are upset about? This is the basis of many a Sunday morning sermon across America. Clergymen are always admonishing and guiding their congregations to be better Christians.

“On Easter, I do reflect on the fact that as a Christian, I am supposed to love,” Mr. Obama said. “And I have to say that sometimes when I listen to less-than-loving expressions by Christians, I get concerned.
But that’s a topic for another day.”

Obama wasn't supposed to be lecturing, and those in the audience aren't His congregation. Even he knew he was heading in the wrong direction for That gathering on That day.

He just can't himself. When he has a chance to criticize those Christians who disagree with him, he's can't resist putting them down.

When it comes to other religions, tippy-toe around the subject.
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Old 04-08-2015, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Obama never disappoints the Left and his Muslim base when given a podium. Speaking to a group of the faithful during the Easter prayer breakfast at the White House, Obumma couldn't resist deviating from his notes and insulted the audience as they sat in the East Room.
You have to wonder how anyone could continue to support this clown.

Obama criticizes 'less-than-loving' Christians - Washington Times
Have you actually listened to the speech? It sounds like he received a a lot of affirmation from the attendees, including numerous audible responses of "well" and at least one "preach". Those are statements of concurrence. Was any attendee offended?

As a Christian, I was not offended and I too am often surprised by the actions of my fellow Christians.

President Obama Remarks 2015 Easter Prayer | Video | C-SPAN.org
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Old 04-08-2015, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Obama never disappoints the Left and his Muslim base when given a podium. Speaking to a group of the faithful during the Easter prayer breakfast at the White House, Obumma couldn't resist deviating from his notes and insulted the audience as they sat in the East Room.
You have to wonder how anyone could continue to support this clown.

Obama criticizes 'less-than-loving' Christians - Washington Times
As long as they are not Muslim or Thugs he will not defend you. But be a muslim or a thug robbing cigars he has got your back
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Old 04-08-2015, 12:28 PM
 
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So you ditch all the sanctimonious lectures on victimhood mentality when you're feelings get hurt, huh? Have none of you ever thought about not dishing out what you can't take? Or did your emotional maturation halt at 1st grade?
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Old 04-08-2015, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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People who are saying this is anti-Christian: are you stupid?

Did Jesus not say to love everybody? Then by not being a loving Christian (which is who Obama was speaking about), do you not deserve to be called out on that? Many would say you don't deserve to be called Christians.

Obama's made a nice list of silly religious remarks that should be dismissed as unimportant: not this one. He made a good point here. There are plenty of Christians who do not 'love their neighbor as themselves.' I'd say most do most of the time, but there are enough that don't that it should be asked about. If you care about the Christian faith, you would ask these kind of questions more but unfortunately, those who take their faith the most seriously tend to use group thinking tactics rather than individual introspective thought.
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Old 04-08-2015, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Have you actually listened to the speech? It sounds like he received a a lot of affirmation from the attendees, including numerous audible responses of "well" and at least one "preach". Those are statements of concurrence. Was any attendee offended?

As a Christian, I was not offended and I too am often surprised by the actions of my fellow Christians.

President Obama Remarks 2015 Easter Prayer | Video | C-SPAN.org
Thanks for posting the actual speech. It was a good one (because there was no politics in it), and no, the religious leaders were not the least bit offended.

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Old 04-08-2015, 12:43 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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" Somehow it’s okay to speak about Christians disappointing him, because they don’t always act with love", and he had to go ALL they way back to ht e CRUSADES for his example.
We only need go back to the 'troubles' in Ireland, eh?
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Old 04-08-2015, 12:58 PM
 
Location: USA
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Thanks for posting the actual speech. It was a good one (because there was no politics in it), and no, the religious leaders were not the least bit offended.
Of course they weren't, they were hand picked by Obama and his administration.

I think it was blown out of proportion, and wasn't really news worthy, especially since he stopped himself short of really saying anything controversial.
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