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Old 04-09-2015, 02:29 PM
 
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I'm very much against bullying being a victim of it myself, but honestly, nobody is perfect. I think nearly everybody has been the bully at some point in some way. Maybe not physically, but even not sticking up for anyone when they ought have to.

I dislike the anti-bullying movement because it's faddish and promotes retribution and shaming of children who are bullies. While a small minority of bully children grow up to be sociopaths and criminals, the vast majority of them turn out to merely be losers or even grow up into mature and caring people. I wouldn't be surprised if anti-bullying groups are funded by the prison industry as a way to obtain slaves from another demographic.
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Old 04-09-2015, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Is it? What are your facts that kids are being jailed? Please provide supporting data to back up your claim.
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Old 04-09-2015, 02:34 PM
 
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I'm very much against bullying being a victim of it myself, but honestly, nobody is perfect. I think nearly everybody has been the bully at some point in some way. Maybe not physically, but even not sticking up for anyone when they ought have to.

I dislike the anti-bullying movement because it's faddish and promotes retribution and shaming of children who are bullies. While a small minority of bully children grow up to be sociopaths and criminals, the vast majority of them turn out to merely be losers or even grow up into mature and caring people. I wouldn't be surprised if anti-bullying groups are funded by the prison industry as a way to obtain slaves from another demographic.
Oh the horror that children might experience some shame over bullying someone.

Yes Im sure that the anti-bullying campaigns are somehow related to slaves from a demographic.
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Old 04-09-2015, 02:40 PM
 
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I'm very much against bullying being a victim of it myself, but honestly, nobody is perfect. I think nearly everybody has been the bully at some point in some way. Maybe not physically, but even not sticking up for anyone when they ought have to.

I dislike the anti-bullying movement because it's faddish and promotes retribution and shaming of children who are bullies. While a small minority of bully children grow up to be sociopaths and criminals, the vast majority of them turn out to merely be losers or even grow up into mature and caring people. I wouldn't be surprised if anti-bullying groups are funded by the prison industry as a way to obtain slaves from another demographic.
I guess I'll give you credit for honesty, even though I think your position is despicable. I imagine you apply this philosophy all through the bullies life, to when he is holding up people on the streets and faced with prison or 'a second/third/fourth chance'.
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Old 04-09-2015, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Sugarmill Woods , FL
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If a kid is being jailed, it has gone WAY past bulling, and they probably should be in jail!
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Old 04-09-2015, 02:43 PM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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Oh the horror that children might experience some shame over bullying someone.

Yes Im sure that the anti-bullying campaigns are somehow related to slaves from a demographic.
There is nothing wrong with a little shame, especially if someone is at fault. People should have guilty consciences for doing something wrong. We should own up to our actions, actions have consequences, and bad actions should have bad consequences.
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Old 04-09-2015, 03:10 PM
 
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If a kid is being jailed, it has gone WAY past bulling, and they probably should be in jail!
They deserved to be brutalized by adults, you are saying? That's ridiculous.
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Old 04-09-2015, 03:12 PM
 
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I guess I'll give you credit for honesty, even though I think your position is despicable. I imagine you apply this philosophy all through the bullies life, to when he is holding up people on the streets and faced with prison or 'a second/third/fourth chance'.
Yes because every kid who's even been mean to somebody grows up to be a career felon.
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Old 04-09-2015, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I dislike the anti-bullying movement because it's faddish and promotes retribution and shaming of children who are bullies. .
Bullies don't deserve to be shamed? What works? Positive affirmation?

I am confused here, do you mean that school systems and other programs that deal with children need to work to recognize and identify this problem behavior and offer assistance to the families? If so, then I agree.
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Old 04-09-2015, 03:26 PM
 
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Bullies don't deserve to be shamed? What works? Positive affirmation?

I am confused here, do you mean that school systems and other programs that deal with children need to work to recognize and identify this problem behavior and offer assistance to the families? If so, then I agree.
I'm just saying they should be treated with a bit of compassion because of their immaturity, not treated like hardened sociopaths, that's all. They should be punished, but with suspension and expulsion, not like an adult would be. There was a viral video of a bully being beat down by his victim and not only were people congratulating the victim (Something I could sort of get behind) there were adults threatening the child bully with DEATH. I find that far more disturbing than the actions of some punk kid. This kid is 12 for God's sake! I don't put children on a pedestal or anything but at that age bullying happens. Teenagers are more impulsive and less empathetic than mature adults so it's not fair to treat them the same way and put them in jail so they can be abused by adults. This country has gotten ridiculously blood thirsty.
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