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Old 04-11-2015, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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The birthers are full of idiots, but anyone who pays $95 for this even makes most of the birthers seem intelligent.
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Old 04-11-2015, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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hillary never did anything to promote birtherism. altho there were clinton supporters among the early birthers ( most notably the PUMAs and phil berg ) they were not the first nor were they connected to the clinton campaign.
really??? is not the candidate responsible for truths or lies that supporters put out in mass media??

they first circulated during the Democratic primaries, stirred up by supporters of Obama rival Hillary Clinton, April 2008

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•..the Birther conspiracy theory was first concocted by renegade members of the original Obama haters, Party Unity My Ass, known more commonly by their acronym, the PUMAs. They were a splinter group of hard-core Hillary Clinton supporters
•A Clinton supporter ..Linda Starr was particularly fired up by.. "the daily misogynistic hate speech against Hillary" during the primaries. As a Democratic precinct captain in Medina County, Starr had volunteered for the Clinton campaign during the hotly contested June Lone Star State primary and served as a Clinton delegate at the state convention. But Starr's real talent was as an amateur opposition researcher—she'd dug up dirt against Republican congressional leaders like Dan Burton and Bob Livingston during the Clinton impeachment hearings in the late 1990s. She was also cited as a key source for CBS' discredited election year investigation into George W. Bush's National Guard records that led to Dan Rather's replacement after 24 years as the evening news anchor. [..]
•..August 2008.. Starr called Philadelphia attorney Philip Berg and offered a challenge. Berg recalled the conversation for me: "She called me up and said, 'Have you heard about Obama not being national born?' I said, 'Yes.' She said, 'Well, now it's for real, and you're the only attorney in the country with brass balls enough to sue Obama.'"
•Berg also had been a Clinton supporter ..
•On August 21, 2008, Berg filed the first Birther lawsuit, requesting an injunction to stop the Democratic Convention from going forward and alleging that Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii. He faxed notices to the DNC and Obama campaign headquarters, and the next day, he launched the Web site Obamacrimes.com with Starr's assistance
Birtherism: Where it all began - Ben Smith and Byron Tau - POLITICO.com


but then again the reality is Obama's own PAO started it way back in 1991, when his book was release saying he was from Kenya

is the 1991 agent 'mistake' is where it started

and in 07 some people based on the agent 'mistake' asked some questions

and in 08 HILLARY pushed it hard as she was in a very tight primary fight that went till june

it started with the democrats


Democratic blog, The Blue State, who wrote on July 23, 2007, “Obama isn't technically a northerner either since he was born in Kenya

There was even a Kenyan newspaper from 2004 that casually referenced “Kenyan-born Obama.”*


and historians STATEMENT of """"Birthism was invented on March 1, 2008 on the right-wing conservative forum FreeRepublic.""""" is a direct contrdiction to the link which states """"conservative sites like FreeRepublic, conspiracy sites like Prison Planet, white supremacist sites like Stormfront didn’t engage the rumor until June 2008""""

but what was historian refering to....a blog by an anonymous poster, who could be anyone from anyparty

and what was historians link to...a anti-birther BLOG by Laren Collins




what is more interesting is that the Clintons didn't take obozo out, like they did JFK Jr

JKF JR.



he was planning on being the senator from ny in 2000, then the president by 2008

crash....he's gone

2000 the new senator from ny is Hillary, who runs for president in 08 (losing primary to Obama (starting the birther conspiracy)))


many have it on the Clinton death list
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Old 04-11-2015, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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Only $95+ for 2 ounces of silver!
"this coin will add value to your silver stack"
A fool and his money are soon parted.
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Old 04-11-2015, 12:27 PM
 
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I'd like it to have Obama on one side and Cruz on the other.
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Old 04-11-2015, 10:39 PM
 
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really??? is not the candidate responsible for truths or lies that supporters put out in mass media??
no.

by your logic mccain would have been equally as guilty of promoting birtherism. both the mccain and clinton campaigns rejected birtherism.

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they first circulated during the Democratic primaries, stirred up by supporters of Obama rival Hillary Clinton, April 2008
correct, but it wasn't exclusively limited to clinton supporters.

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is the 1991 agent 'mistake' is where it started
nobody cited the mariam goderich bio until it was dug up by brietbart.com in may 2012.

The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet: 'Born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii' - Breitbart

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and in 07 some people based on the agent 'mistake' asked some questions
can you link to anyone citing the goderich bio before 2012?

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and in 08 HILLARY pushed it hard ....
no she didn't. again, clinton did nothing to support birtherism.


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Democratic blog, The Blue State, who wrote on July 23, 2007, “Obama isn't technically a northerner either since he was born in Kenya
yep, it's mentioned in the first paragraph of the "secret origins" link i posted.

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There was even a Kenyan newspaper from 2004 that casually referenced “Kenyan-born Obama.”
yep, and they ran a retraction in the very next issue in 2004.


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and historians STATEMENT of ...
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but what was historian refering to....
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and what was historians link to...
do you realize that i'm not historian [dude]?

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what is more interesting is that the Clintons didn't take obozo out, like they did JFK Jr
and with that we've dove into the deep end of the conspiracy pool.
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