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Old 04-13-2015, 01:34 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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I picked this title out as a random, catchy title.

The thread subject is a survey of the Obama Administration's foreign policy accomplishments. He started off his Presidency in a somewhat promising manner, where he bowed down to foreign potentates. Then there was the "apology" tour, where he apologized for what a horrible, overbearing and mean country the U.S. is. The world has countless lands where the governments are kind, leading examples being Cuba, North Korea, Iran, Syria and Russia.
And the world gave him the Nobel Peace Prize for it.
The Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 to President Barack Obama - Press Release

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Next up was his withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq. The country is well on its way to peace and prosperity. Rival militias from Iran and ISIS are merely stabilizing forces that protect the populations they control from the baneful effects of Zionism, colonialism and U.S. imperialism.
Iraq (was) a non-terrorist country until the GW Bush White House said 935 false statements to invade Iraq. GW Bush killed 100,000+ innocent Iraqi people and the anger over those deaths allowed ISIS to take over Iraq. And Obama leaving US soldiers in Iraq to kill more Iraq's would only give ISIS more followers.

Study: Bush, aides made 935 false statements in run-up to war - CNN.com

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Obama's accomplishments indeed are so impressive that his most serious problems are Canada and Israel. In the case of Canada it wants to build a pipeline. Obama fears the environmental degradation of Canada's boreal forests. By contrast, oil production in other parts of the world, such as Iran, Saudi Arabia and Venezuela is benign and beneficent. Saddam Huseein was trying to light up the night sky over Kuwait by setting their wells ablaze. Francis Scott Key could have written quite the memorial song to that event. Obama is seeking to ensure that we continue to transfer revenue to those leaders, who of course will lavish wealth on their poor.
The Keystone pipeline will only create 35 permanent jobs. And in the process it will destroy jobs loading, holding, and trucking oil. It will also destroy untouched nature, pollute rivers and streams, and increase tar sands mining which is the most polluting form of oil production there is.
Keystone XL pipeline will create 35 permanent jobs, State Department says - CSMonitor.com

The Keystone pipeline will also most likely increase gas prices in America. The republicans want the pipeline as a favor to their oil company campaign contributors (if they get the pipeline they can fire all the truckers and oil storage workers, and then ship all the oil to Asia.)
Bernie Sanders Shatters The Big Keystone XL Lie: Pipeline Will Cause US Gas Prices To Go Up
Big Oil's Influence in Washington . NOW | PBS

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Back on the home front, though, Obama's nemesis is, surprisingly, Benjamin Netanyahu. His speech is far more inflammatory than Khamemi's yelling "death to America" while his negotiators studiously try to negotiate nuclear "peace in our times." Obama, to his credit, wants to expand his coterie of personal friends to include Khamemi and, just last night, Raul Castro.
Israel receives more American foreign aid than any other country (when Israel has lower unemployment rates and better trade income than America.)
The Staggering Cost of Israel to Americans

And the Israeli lobby in Washington is so powerful that Israelis write many of America's laws.
Introduction to the Israel Lobby

The republicans have their noses up Israel's as- because Israel gives them so much campaign money, and its nice to see Obama not sticking his nose up Israel's as- as well.

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Old 04-13-2015, 03:30 AM
 
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Another crappy thread trashing President Obama! !
Meaningless! !
He trashed an idiot who is stumbling through 8 disastrous years.

An idiot idiots voted into office.................twice. This fool makes Carter look brilliant. Carter though did two things right in four years and after six years, your idiot hero has yet to accomplish anything that doesn't appear to destroy Americans economic lives.

The lesson here is to avoid electing anyone into office who is only known as well-spoken and clean.
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Old 04-13-2015, 04:25 AM
 
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Chad3,
You are being myopic, especially if you think Obama deserved that Nobel Peace Prize. The Keystone Pipeline would create more than 35 jobs, as you are ignoring the increase in gas at oil refineries, the increase in refined gas that then needs to get transported to the rest of the world. Those create jobs too.

Yes, once the pipeline is up and constructed, it only creates 35 new permanent jobs in its maintenance. But it is either disingenuous or ignorant to pretend that it stops there.

There is something so disingenuous about an Obama administration that argued that the 1 time painting of a plane (that already had a good paint job) as part of the stimulus created 4 permanent jobs through ripple effects -- while they refuse to accept the fact that increased oil at refineries would factually create more refinery jobs and more transportation jobs from the refinery to markets. Obama lies and the sheep bah along.

It is okay, we can transport much of the oil in a more dangerous fashion by train and perhaps some of the oil can travel a farther distance more prone to spills where China can refine it with less pollution regulations. That would be great for mother nature. Canada says the oil is coming out... Do we want to transport it in safer methods to cleaner refineries, or father and more dangerously to dirtier refineries. I suppose you are choosing the anti-Earth policy for partisan gain?


You also claim: "Iraq (was) a non-terrorist country." Iraq was sponsoring terrorism pre-invasion per the CIA and Bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee. John Kerry said that there was no terrorism in Iraq before the invasion, when pushed on the intelligence reports his campaign issued a statement clarifying his position back to Bush's position.

You can disagree with the Iraq War while sticking to the facts and if you can't then you are actually saying the war was worthwhile.

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Old 04-13-2015, 04:31 AM
 
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Another crappy thread trashing President Obama! !
Meaningless! !
Meaningless to liberals who don't care what damage their dear leader does to America.
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Old 04-13-2015, 04:41 AM
 
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And the world gave him the Nobel Peace Prize for it.
The Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 to President Barack Obama - Press Release



Iraq (was) a non-terrorist country until the GW Bush White House said 935 false statements to invade Iraq. GW Bush killed 100,000+ innocent Iraqi people and the anger over those deaths allowed ISIS to take over Iraq. And Obama leaving US soldiers in Iraq to kill more Iraq's would only give ISIS more followers.

Study: Bush, aides made 935 false statements in run-up to war - CNN.com



The Keystone pipeline will only create 35 permanent jobs. And in the process it will destroy jobs loading, holding, and trucking oil. It will also destroy untouched nature, pollute rivers and streams, and increase tar sands mining which is the most polluting form of oil production there is.
Keystone XL pipeline will create 35 permanent jobs, State Department says - CSMonitor.com

The Keystone pipeline will also most likely increase gas prices in America. The republicans want the pipeline as a favor to their oil company campaign contributors (if they get the pipeline they can fire all the truckers and oil storage workers, and then ship all the oil to Asia.)
Bernie Sanders Shatters The Big Keystone XL Lie: Pipeline Will Cause US Gas Prices To Go Up
Big Oil's Influence in Washington . NOW | PBS



Israel receives more American foreign aid than any other country (when Israel has lower unemployment rates and better trade income than America.)
The Staggering Cost of Israel to Americans

And the Israeli lobby in Washington is so powerful that Israelis write many of America's laws.
Introduction to the Israel Lobby

The republicans have their noses up Israel's as- because Israel gives them so much campaign money, and its nice to see Obama not sticking his nose up Israel's as- as well.
Well said, agree with u on every issue
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Old 04-13-2015, 04:47 AM
 
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Meaningless to liberals who don't care what damage their dear leader does to America.
I'm not a liberal,i'm more conservative than Ted Cruz,that' s why i believe President Obama approach is prudent and conservative.
President Obama was smart enough not to fall into Satan-yahu trap and his Republican war-mongers allies.

Cuba and Iran problems are about to be solved, thanks to President Obama
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Old 04-13-2015, 05:55 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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His friendship with Raul Castro is likely to see Joanne Chesimard returned to face justice in the U.S. Her "crime" was the murder of New Jersey State Trooper Werner Foerster during a shootout on the Jersey Turnpike (link). Again, however, perhaps Obama wants to equalize the opportunities for people to disagree with police officers.
Maybe he'll trade some Guantanamo terrorists for Chesimard.
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Old 04-13-2015, 06:41 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Fail.

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Originally Posted by chad3 View Post
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Israel receives more American foreign aid than any other country (when Israel has lower unemployment rates and better trade income than America.)

Fail: 2013 article. Current US unemployment is 5.5, Israel is 5.6

And the Israeli lobby in Washington is so powerful that Israelis write many of America's laws.

Fail: AIPAC doesn't even make the top 20 of DC Lobbyists

The republicans have their noses up Israel's as- because Israel gives them so much campaign money, and its nice to see Obama not sticking his nose up Israel's as- as well.

Fail: Israel related organizations don't even make the top 100 list.
https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
This is 2015. How about using 2014 data as a bare minimum?
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Old 04-13-2015, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Not sure what your thread means.
I think it means jbug is not happy and blames the president.
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Old 04-13-2015, 09:13 AM
 
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The thread was meant as bitter sarcasm. Our President has given away our values and our superiority as a country. For a mess of pottage, in this case, to pal around with Raul Castro and Iranian Ayatollahs.
You really can't do better than this^^^^¿?
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