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Old 04-24-2015, 12:40 PM
 
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It's insanity that we are borrowing from China to give money to Israel, Egypt, Iran....insane!
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Old 04-24-2015, 12:45 PM
 
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It's insanity that we are borrowing from China to give money to Israel, Egypt, Iran....insane!
I would think the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq which is costing $4.4+ trillion has more to do with that
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Old 04-24-2015, 01:27 PM
 
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How come the USA gives 3 billion dollars in foreign aide to Isreal every year? They are a prosperous nation aren't they?
I wonder how many millions made their way back to the Clinton Foundation.

What a gimmick..

"I'll give you $3 billion in aid, if you then give my "Foundation" $x million".. Woo hooo..
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Old 04-24-2015, 01:30 PM
 
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It's insanity that we are borrowing from China to give money to Israel, Egypt, Iran....insane!
First of all I would take exception in naming the countries. as if the people benefit.

we just help military. we seldom if ever help the regular folks.

but please remind me when did give money to Iran?
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Old 04-24-2015, 01:33 PM
 
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First of all I would take exception in naming the countries. as if the people benefit.

we just help military. we seldom if ever help the regular folks.

but please remind me when did give money to Iran?
If we did, it would have been under the Shah, which was a while ago because he was overthrown in 1979 during the Islamic Revolution in Iran which installed the current government into power.

It is ridiculous that the U.S. continues foreign aid while the U.S. is running huge deficits, along with useless interventions that cost trillions, such as Iraq, putting the country further in debt for nothing.
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Old 04-24-2015, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Nothing about Israel is in our interest. They're just another country.
So let it burn is your answer .
Iran gets a nuclear weapon and destroys Israel and you claim that is of no interest just another holcaust
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Old 04-24-2015, 01:43 PM
 
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So let it burn is your answer .
Iran gets a nuclear weapon and destroys Israel and you claim that is of no interest just another holcaust
The U.S. has no national interests at stake in Israel. Israel is a detriment to the U.S., as intervening for Israel in its affairs, and in the Israel/Palestine conflict on Israel's side(No matter who wins it does not benefit the U.S. at all) has been part of the reason the Jihad has chosen to attack the U.S.

Israel will survive fine on their own, it is ridiculous to assume that if the U.S. does not babysit Israel it will be destroyed. Israel should do whatever it wants, or feels necessary to protect itself, but it is not the responsibility of the U.S. to do anything for Israel. Even Israel PM Benjamin Netanyahu said Israel can defend themselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51-KA-Nc3_k
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Old 04-24-2015, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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The U.S. has no national interests at stake in Israel. Israel is a detriment to the U.S., as intervening for Israel in its affairs, and in the Israel/Palestine conflict on Israel's side(No matter who wins it does not benefit the U.S. at all) has been part of the reason the Jihad has chosen to attack the U.S.

Israel will survive fine on their own, it is ridiculous to assume that if the U.S. does not babysit Israel it will be destroyed. Israel should do whatever it wants, or feels necessary to protect itself, but it is not the responsibility of the U.S. to do anything for Israel. Even Israel PM Benjamin Netanyahu said Israel can defend themselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51-KA-Nc3_k
If you think Iran nuking Israel does not hurt our national interest then hopefully people like you will never come to power to let it happen.
Same thing was heard with hitler
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Old 04-24-2015, 02:13 PM
 
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If you think Iran nuking Israel does not hurt our national interest then hopefully people like you will never come to power to let it happen.
Same thing was heard with hitler
If Iran and Israel decided to wipe each other out tomorrow it is not the problem of the U.S. The U.S. is not responsible for Israel, or Israel's security. It never was and never should be, Israel can take care of themselves.

Even if Iran gets a nuclear weapon, which Iran does not have, it is very unlikely they would use them first for one reason, mutually assured destruction. Iran, along with other Middle Eastern nations, know Israel has nuclear weapons. Israel has used nukes as a deterrent to its neighbors, and Iran if it acquired nukes would more than likely do the same due to threats from Israel and the West. Same thing the U.S. and U.S.S.R. did during the Cold War. You really think if Iran got a nuke they would use it immediately against Israel, even the U.S.S.R. threatened to bury the U.S., but it was all propaganda. The Iranians are rational, more so than the DPRK (North Korea), which has nukes. Iran would more than likely not start a war they could not win.

Michael Scheuer Non-Intervention.com

Read the article in the link.
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Old 04-24-2015, 03:09 PM
 
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There we go again!!! Holocaust brought up for no reason at all.

as if the 6 million innocent jews were killed by the Palestinians, or the Iranians, Egyptians, ....

Let's remember that Jews live in Iran and They even have a member of parliament. Jews Live in Turkey.

but that's beside the point.

people just listen to the corporate media and word for word copy and past what they have been told to think.

There is only one country in the Middle East that has Nuclear weapons. and That is Israel. and sine that Weapon is the greatest strategic deterrence. Israel will be just fine.

You can't have it both ways

You can not say the Military Aid to Israel is not enough to make a difference.
and then turn around and say Well what if They got Nuked (by people who do not have nuclear weapons).


There is only one consequence of the U.S stooping the AID to Israel (which means stopping the small Aid to Mahmoud Abbas and Egyptian Military as well).

That consequence is that Israel will realize it is not economically viable to continue to seizing other people's land and will move to make peace with its neighbor under fair terms.

but forget it. those who think colonialism is natural are way too rich and strong in this country.
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