Lynch confirmation; A defeat for liberty and freedom (heroin, racism, Feingold)

[SHABAZZ310]

Originally Posted by Roadking2003

Many of our rights are being violated with impunity. But yes, this did not start with Obama or Lynch. However, they certainly have and will continue on the path of Big Government and expanding government power.

One example is border patrol checkpoints that are not on the border. Others include our right to choose our food, our doctor, our drinks and the right to walk down the sidewalk without being searched by LE.

So you are admitting that Obama hasn't enacted anything during his presidency that takes your "liberty and freedom"?

[Casper in Dallas]

Originally Posted by nononsenseguy

Care to explain that? Were you even around in the 50's and 60's? I was.

Here's one example for you: We didn't have an oppressive government agency telling people what they can and cannot do with their land; telling them they cannot build a pond, or farm a certain portion of land that has been declared (against their will) to be "wet land." Just one example of a loss of Liberty.

Here's another: The ongoing efforts (which have been successful to a large extent) to limit our Second Amendment right. Government buying up ammo, making it more expensive, attempting to control the production of ammo, and outlaw certain types, making certain guns illegal, illegal confiscation of firearms, including guns that are family heirlooms (worth a lot of money), etc., etc.

The most recent example I can think of is the ACA, limiting your choice of doctor, and what kind of health insurance you can buy (you have to have maternity coverage, even if you are a man!).

Yes, I was around, nice try.

Yes, we did, the government, local, state and Feds have been doing this as far back as this Nations birth.

Conspiracy theories? Sorry but I have no problem finding and buying plenty of ammo, I have a lot stocked. Nor has my ability to buy firearms, I have over seven new firearms while those evil Libs were running the Nation, including a couple of AR's and have not had one bit of problem in purchasing them. I do laugh every time (election) the NRA and Cons start screaming about the evil Government is going to take away their 2nd A rights any second now and everyone runs out and buys up everything on the shelves, are you ever going to figure out you are being played? If you need more ammo go out and get it when you can afford it, I spread out my spending each month and replace what I have used and add a little to my stockpile every month, I could go a lifetime at this point without any further purchases, well until our little group gates together and goes through a bunch, it has happened before.
Anyway, so far it seems those rights are safe and with a Republican Congress and a People that believe in retaining those rights there is no worry anyone is going to be removing them, and I do not know even one person, Lib or Con that is willing to turn in their firearms.

ACA does not limit your choice in doctors, each policy is different and many are HMO's and HMO's always have required you use their doctors. Do you even know what ACA is, it is not an insurance policy it is access to policies from many different insurance companies and HMO's that one choices what works best for them. If you do not like what is offered then shop around and find something you prefer, make your own choices.

[Roadking2003]

Originally Posted by SHABAZZ310

So you are admitting that Obama hasn't enacted anything during his presidency that takes your "liberty and freedom"?

No, I didn't say that. In fact I said just the opposite. Try reading my post more carefully.

[LauraC]

Soooo, is anyone planning a retirement party for Holder?

[Versatile]

Originally Posted by SHABAZZ310

What's up with all the race baiting?

Just look who it is. He is good at it.

[Volobjectitarian]

Another bag man for the Executive branch. Don Obama dumped Fredo and nominated Connie and got her approved. Okie doke. Like DoJ wasn't already weaponized under Holder? DoJ is Obama's street muscle, and has never been much else during his admin. Lynch can't be worse than Holder, and we survived him.

[Versatile]

Originally Posted by nononsenseguy

Care to explain that? Were you even around in the 50's and 60's? I was.

Here's one example for you: We didn't have an oppressive government agency telling people what they can and cannot do with their land; telling them they cannot build a pond, or farm a certain portion of land that has been declared (against their will) to be "wet land." Just one example of a loss of Liberty.

Here's another: The ongoing efforts (which have been successful to a large extent) to limit our Second Amendment right. Government buying up ammo, making it more expensive, attempting to control the production of ammo, and outlaw certain types, making certain guns illegal, illegal confiscation of firearms, including guns that are family heirlooms (worth a lot of money), etc., etc.

The most recent example I can think of is the ACA, limiting your choice of doctor, and what kind of health insurance you can buy (you have to have maternity coverage, even if you are a man!).

Explain this::confiscation of firearms, including guns that are family heirlooms (worth a lot of money), etc., etc.


All of your etc reminds me of uneducated people and kids saying "And Everything".

[Patricius Maximus]

And they say Republicans are obstructionists; how can they* be obstructionists if they just give Obama whatever he wants and offer no opposition to what he's doing, and lip service doesn't count as opposition seeing as he doesn't need their lip service to operate. They let all his activities be funded and confirm whoever he appoints to the Cabinet - if that's obstructionism I'd like the pro-Obama crowd to know what real obstruction looks like. I'd start by not confirming any Cabinet or judicial appointees not acceptable to the GOP and not appropriating money to or allowing new debt for any of the programs he created; if he wanted to veto that he can suffer the consequences of a shut-down government until he's ready to cooperate or until he leaves office, whichever comes sooner. If you ask me anything less than that doesn't rate the whining about obstruction we've heard for the past 7 years.

*By they I mean the leadership and the minority of the caucus that make a majority with the Democrats when they vote. Some obstructionists .

Originally Posted by SHABAZZ310

So you are admitting that Obama hasn't enacted anything during his presidency that takes your "liberty and freedom"?

What is it with you people always putting phrases containing freedom in quotes?

Originally Posted by Versatile

All of your etc reminds me of uneducated people and kids saying "And Everything".

I suppose it would be better for them to receive the kind of education you apparently did where you learned how to use obfuscation and meaningless deflections to deny that under Obama freedoms are being violated in new ways and the ways they were already being violated have all either become more severe or have not lessened. Anyone of any political persuasion (pro-liberty or not) who believes that liberty has stayed the same or increased under Obama considering just for starters this, this, this, and this is either stupid, not paying attention, or lying.

[bobtn]

It was terrific to finally see a vote on her confirmation.

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by Roadking2003

Nobody (except you) said that.

You did in your implication, that or you are being outraged about something that you know full well has been going on long before this administration.