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Old 04-27-2015, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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This is why the opponents play up his radical upbringing, his lack of love for America, his otherness, his not being a US citizen, that he is a radical muslim, palling around with terrorists, who hates America, etc.

This is why his opponents view every action President Obama takes as seeking to destroy America.

Again, future generations will see these actions and words as being motivated by racial bigotry because they are.

All of your above examples are just ways of cloaking their racism. If his opponents argued based on reality, none of your examples would ever apply.

We both know their motivations, and why they continue to trot out those absurd and insulting examples you mentioned.
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Old 04-27-2015, 08:04 AM
 
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There is no doubt that much of the opposition to President Obama is racist in nature and will be viewed that way historically.

President Obama's presidency will be seen as the beginning of a demographically changing America and opposition to him will be tied up in opposition to that demographic change, which again is mostly racist in nature.

There are real policies in which President Obama could be criticized, but his political opponents haven't chosen to do that.

They have chosen to play up his radical upbringing, his hatred towards white people, his hatred of America, his otherness, he is a muslim, a radical, gay, blah, blah, blah.

This is why whatever he does is seen to these bigots as seeking to destroy America.

These kinds of views will be understood by future generations as being motivated by racist attitudes.
Maybe you're right but; a LOT of people simply DON'T like Obama for what his beliefs are and do come off the wall with racist crap which pisses me off.

Word was if Colin Powell ran for POTUS in 2008; especially if has a decent VP, not a "Palin", he'd have kicked Obama's ass into next week and Mr Powell is a "Black" Repub.

BTW: I voted for Mr Obama as POTUS in 2008 and, I'm def a white Repub.
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Old 04-27-2015, 08:08 AM
 
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Wrong! "Much" of the opposition to Obama is not about racism. "Some" of it may be or is. A "minority" of bigots are not destroying this country over a majority who are not. Leave it to lefty, liberals to take the fringe element and hold it up as an example of the majority. It's what they do especially when it comes to white Americans. Their own hypocritical blatant hatred and racism of them explains their exaggerations and lies.
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Old 04-27-2015, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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I disagree and I explained why I disagree.

The opposition to President Obama is mostly racially motivated.

This is why the opponents play up his radical upbringing, his lack of love for America, his otherness, his not being a US citizen, that he is a radical muslim, palling around with terrorists, who hates America, etc.

This is why his opponents view every action President Obama takes as seeking to destroy America.

Again, future generations will see these actions and words as being motivated by racial bigotry because they are.
I feel you are wrong

his lack of love for America...not about race... but about politics...he said himself he wanted to fundamentally transform America.... as do most of the far leftist liberals who cant stand individual freedom, and think the government is the only answer

palling around with terrorists...again not about race... but about appeasing... we should NOT be appeasing or negotiating with terroists.... and you think that is about race....take the blinders of man

not being a us citizen.... ahhh the birthers... pushed by whom...Hillary's camp during the primaries.... he was born in Hawaii, to an American mother and a Kenyan father... born in the USA..he is a citizen


I don't care what color, race, religion, or gender my commander in chief is... but I do care about them transforming America into something it is not....I believe is a small but effective government where individual freedom is number one ... not the big brother " community before individualism " that the fascist liberals constantly push
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Old 04-27-2015, 11:34 AM
 
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All of your above examples are just ways of cloaking their racism. If his opponents argued based on reality, none of your examples would ever apply.

We both know their motivations, and why they continue to trot out those absurd and insulting examples you mentioned.
Yes, its very obvious. I remember republicans and conservatives didn't like Bill Clinton and they made some outrageously insane complaints about him.

I listened to Rush Limbaugh, they thought he was a morally bankrupt person, they accused him of stealing in white water, accused him of murder, accused him of rape, they said he started a bombing campaign in Bosnia to distract from the Monica Lewinsky thing/impeachment.

They associated him with liberalism and lax morals, of smoking dope, etc, but they never questioned whether he was American, they never said he was some kind of secret radical, socialist, sent here to destroy America. They didn't say Bill Clinton didn't love America, they didn't say he was a muslim. They didn't say he supported terrorists. They didn't portray Bill Clinton as the other.

These words that come from conservatives about President Obama have no basis in the actual policies that President Obama pursued, they are the rantings of people who hate President Obama based on his race, but have to invent reasons other than his race for why they hate him, so you get this President Obama as the other unAmerican secretly trying to destroy America nonsense that is extremely common amongst conservatives.

That stuff is 100% motivated by racism.
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Old 04-27-2015, 11:39 AM
 
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Maybe you're right but; a LOT of people simply DON'T like Obama for what his beliefs are and do come off the wall with racist crap which pisses me off.

Word was if Colin Powell ran for POTUS in 2008; especially if has a decent VP, not a "Palin", he'd have kicked Obama's ass into next week and Mr Powell is a "Black" Repub.

BTW: I voted for Mr Obama as POTUS in 2008 and, I'm def a white Repub.
Nope, I have seen very little opposition to President Obama from conservatives based on policy.

conservatives don't really criticize policy as much.

I noticed this with Bill Clinton, where conservative opposition to Clinton was focused on him as a human being, he is immoral, and slick, and liberal and therefore I oppose his policies.

With President Obama we get he is the other, unAmerican, a secret muslim, anti white radical out to destroy America and I oppose his policies.

That kind of rhetoric is 100% driven by racism and it is the vast majority of what conservatives say and believe about President Obama.
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Old 04-27-2015, 11:43 AM
 
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I feel you are wrong

his lack of love for America...not about race... but about politics...he said himself he wanted to fundamentally transform America.... as do most of the far leftist liberals who cant stand individual freedom, and think the government is the only answer

palling around with terrorists...again not about race... but about appeasing... we should NOT be appeasing or negotiating with terroists.... and you think that is about race....take the blinders of man

not being a us citizen.... ahhh the birthers... pushed by whom...Hillary's camp during the primaries.... he was born in Hawaii, to an American mother and a Kenyan father... born in the USA..he is a citizen


I don't care what color, race, religion, or gender my commander in chief is... but I do care about them transforming America into something it is not....I believe is a small but effective government where individual freedom is number one ... not the big brother " community before individualism " that the fascist liberals constantly push
Nope Im not wrong.

All of those complaints are about race and will be viewed that way in light of history.

Again, all of these arguments coming from conservatives are 100% racially motivated and will be viewed as such historically.
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Old 04-27-2015, 11:49 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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The folks constantly pulling the tired race card with regard to their messiah are race-baiters who are just projecting. Shows us who the real racists are.
You know, kind of like how the folks who scream most often about homosexuals likely are, well...
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Old 04-27-2015, 11:51 AM
 
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Given that the Republican party is the party of Dixie, without a doubt, the obstruction is the product of racism and ignorance. It is a shameful, embarrassing time for the GOP, and it will be viewed as such in the future.
Demcorats, party of the KKK.
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Old 04-27-2015, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Elysium
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Yes, its very obvious. I remember republicans and conservatives didn't like Bill Clinton and they made some outrageously insane complaints about him.

I listened to Rush Limbaugh, they thought he was a morally bankrupt person, they accused him of stealing in white water, accused him of murder, accused him of rape, they said he started a bombing campaign in Bosnia to distract from the Monica Lewinsky thing/impeachment.

They associated him with liberalism and lax morals, of smoking dope, etc, but they never questioned whether he was American, they never said he was some kind of secret radical, socialist, sent here to destroy America. They didn't say Bill Clinton didn't love America, they didn't say he was a muslim. They didn't say he supported terrorists. They didn't portray Bill Clinton as the other.

These words that come from conservatives about President Obama have no basis in the actual policies that President Obama pursued, they are the rantings of people who hate President Obama based on his race, but have to invent reasons other than his race for why they hate him, so you get this President Obama as the other unAmerican secretly trying to destroy America nonsense that is extremely common amongst conservatives.

That stuff is 100% motivated by racism.
You know what you did You started off with Rush Limbaugh then pivoted to the unnamed anonymous "conservatives"
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