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Old 04-25-2015, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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The top earners are not those who deliver quality healthcare but those who take advantage of our need for medical care and skim off exorbitant profits.



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Physicians, the most highly trained members in the industry’s work force, are on average right in the middle of the compensation pack.
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The proliferation of high earners in the medical business and administration ranks adds to the United States’ $2.7 trillion health care bill and stands in stark contrast with other developed countries, where top-ranked hospitals have only skeleton administrative staffs and where health care workers are generally paid less. And many experts say it’s bad value for health care dollars.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/18/su...=fb-share&_r=0
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Old 04-25-2015, 09:30 AM
 
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Valid points.

However, we must be careful not to punish success or handcuff the job creators. These people may have relatively high incomes but by the time you get through paying taxes on $3-5 million there's not as much left as many people think.

Moreover, a rising tide raises all boats. The money these folks earn money will eventually find its way back into the pockets of the middle class.
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Old 04-25-2015, 09:49 AM
 
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The reason healthcare is so high is not the cost of healthcare itself. The salaries of doctors, researchers, and allied healthcare workers are a small portion of the cost. Our healthcare is so expensive because of the huge salaries, and other forms of pay, that goes to insurance CEOs, hospital executives, and administrators.

Health Sense: Rural Wisconsin doctors call for health care reform
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Old 04-25-2015, 09:54 AM
 
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The reason healthcare is so high is not the cost of healthcare itself. The salaries of doctors, researchers, and allied healthcare workers are a small portion of the cost. Our healthcare is so expensive because of the huge salaries, and other forms of pay, that goes to insurance CEOs, hospital executives, and administrators.
cough...lawyers/malpractice suits....cough
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Old 04-25-2015, 09:54 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Valid points.

However, we must be careful not to punish success or handcuff the job creators. These people may have relatively high incomes but by the time you get through paying taxes on $3-5 million there's not as much left as many people think.


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Moreover, a rising tide raises all boats. The money these folks earn money will eventually find its way back into the pockets of the middle class.
And the myth of 'trickle-down' economics benefitting everyone is alive and well in the land of the highest per-capita healthcare costs in the world.
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Old 04-25-2015, 09:59 AM
 
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We need to find ways to bypass the middle men in the health industry. In my state, we can order our own labs. There is a menu of different lab tests to detect various illnesses with a price tag. If we get our basic CBC through the lab without a doctor's order, it's 89 dollars, while its 700 dollars through an insurance company plus the doctor's visit to order it and another visit to go over the result (150 x2 ).

There is so much information out there, more healthcare should be left in the hands of informed people.
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Old 04-25-2015, 10:00 AM
 
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You want me to cry for the poor doctors?
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Old 04-25-2015, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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cough...lawyers/malpractice suits....cough
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Overall annual medical liability system costs, including defensive medicine, are estimated to be $55.6 billion in 2008 dollars, or 2.4 percent of total health care spending.
National Costs Of The Medical Liability System


You should really see a doctor for that cough of yours.
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Old 04-25-2015, 10:05 AM
 
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We need to find ways to bypass the middle men in the health industry. In my state, we can order our own labs. There is a menu of different lab tests to detect various illnesses with a price tag. If we get our basic CBC through the lab without a doctor's order, it's 89 dollars, while its 700 dollars through an insurance company plus the doctor's visit to order it and another visit to go over the result (150 x2 ).

There is so much information out there, more healthcare should be left in the hands of informed people.


And Medicare should be allowed to negotiate drug prices but with Congress bought and paid for by Big Pharma, it's unlikely
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Old 04-25-2015, 10:05 AM
 
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You want me to cry for the poor doctors?
You totally missed the point here.

We are paying a lot more for healthcare, than necessary, to enrich insurance executives and hospital administrators.
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