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I am older, and a "thug" to me was a person who was an outlaw, a bad person, who beats up and abuses others, destroys property, shoots people. In other words, a bad guy, criminal, with a bad attitude, out to cause mayhem and commit crimes. When I was younger, "thugs" were primarily related to mafia henchmen, and nazi/commie henchmen, or common steet villains. While these "thugs" still exist to some extent, the majority of individuals nowadays who exhibit "thuggish" behavior are criminal black males - gang members and the like. To me this is not a term that describes a race, but instead a type of malevolent behavior. I don't see this as a "racist" term, but rather an "if the shoe fits............."
I was brought up in the era when "thug" had the meaning that the OP indicates. The shift to limiting it black men is quite recent.
If I were in the U.S. I would certainly avoid using the word entirely now as the I would surely be misunderstood on all sides.
Fortunately among the English speakers that I encounter there is no confusion.
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As Tupac defined it, a thug is someone who is going through struggles, has gone through struggles, and continues to live day by day with nothing for them.
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At this point, this whole charade by the African-American community has become a big damn joke.
Watching CNN all these blacks are getting on there and saying don't refer to them as thugs - they aren't thugs, they are disenchanted, they aren't thugs, this that and the other....WHAT THE BLEEP ARE WE SUPPOSED TO CALL THE YOOFS WHO BURNED AND LOOTED?....ANGELS?
I'm serious...I'm tired of the Mickey Mouse crap out of that community and frankly I'm sure the rest of non-African America is as well.
I think O'Reilly is right when he says that the events in Baltimore this past week have set it back, and perhaps the rest of the country as well, decades.
One white dude I know told me that the NBA was full of thugs. Naturally, he couldn't prove it beyond a few guys. He cited Iverson, who wasn't even close to being a thug. The last serious trouble that he'd ever gotten in was in high school, and that conviction was flimsy at best. The gun incident with his wife was so nebulous that the real story never got out.
Basically, Iverson was a rogue character...and that's not a thug.
The guy cited cornrows and tattoos as "thuggish." Of course, I clowned that idiot to no end. He's just scared...and if he's scared of you, then you're a thug. His cowardice is his problem, but since he can't overcome that, he'd rather label someone a thug instead to justify it.
Amazing how you think that only your definition should be used as you appear to be the word police. Anything that white co is "thuggish" yet when the black youth commits the same or worse act it is because they are deprived and should be forgiven. Simply amazing.
I am older, and a "thug" to me was a person who was an outlaw, a bad person, who beats up and abuses others, destroys property, shoots people. In other words, a bad guy, criminal, with a bad attitude, out to cause mayhem and commit crimes. When I was younger, "thugs" were primarily related to mafia henchmen, and nazi/commie henchmen, or common steet villains. While these "thugs" still exist to some extent, the majority of individuals nowadays who exhibit "thuggish" behavior are criminal black males - gang members and the like. To me this is not a term that describes a race, but instead a type of malevolent behavior. I don't see this as a "racist" term, but rather an "if the shoe fits............."
The person claiming the word to be for black people is a loser, thug and someone we should laugh about and just put in a box with label "stupid or dumb".
Black rappers have been for years so insulting towards women and using the "N" word in so many songs and don't see that they are the cause of a lot of negative things.
Some of the rap songs were pretty good and I never realized so much the lyrics until my kids were growing up and singing along and I heard them use all these words and I thought "really" as we never thought so much about the lyrics and paid more attention to the overall sound.
That was also part why we started to change the channel and the other reason was that some blacks were starting to accuse white people of using the same words and making it discriminating while they used it all the time.
As Tupac defined it, a thug is someone who is going through struggles, has gone through struggles, and continues to live day by day with nothing for them.
I am older, and a "thug" to me was a person who was an outlaw, a bad person, who beats up and abuses others, destroys property, shoots people. In other words, a bad guy, criminal, with a bad attitude, out to cause mayhem and commit crimes. When I was younger, "thugs" were primarily related to mafia henchmen, and nazi/commie henchmen, or common steet villains. While these "thugs" still exist to some extent, the majority of individuals nowadays who exhibit "thuggish" behavior are criminal black males - gang members and the like. To me this is not a term that describes a race, but instead a type of malevolent behavior. I don't see this as a "racist" term, but rather an "if the shoe fits............."
Kinda obvious Thug is the new ******.
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