Home invadors come back for revenge, catch a bullet (statistics, deaths, violent crime)
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Yeah, kinda silly. Like having insurance, wearing seatbelts or having a fire extinguisher or smoke detectors in the house. Odds are they will never be needed, right?
insurance
seat belts
fire extinguisher
helmets
all of these items have low cost, high benefit.
All of these items happen far more often than a fatal home invasion (insurance is broad term, but almost every policy has broad protections that are used by most people from hail storms to backing into a tree with your Buick)
Fire by itself happens to 300 out of 100,000 households, significantly more than any kind of fatal home invasion.
Guns in the home are associated with higher risk for the people in the home (Suicide, Accident, or Domestic Abuse). .so its an idiotic thing to do to buy a gun "for protection" if chances are it will be used on you or your family first.
And purely from a no risk standpoint (hey lock up your guns so tightly you never get to use them in a home invasion). .
are you never walking drunk (pretty fatal) or crossing streets (pretty risk) or wearing a helmet at all times? seems idiotic to pay $350 to 500 for a gun to protect you from a 1 in 250k event if you won't even pay $300 for a backup camera on your car.
The chances of getting ALS is around 1 in 100,000 for a human being.
you don't need a gun for most burglaries, of course. Your NOT THERE. Guns don't help, unless you got a drone or something
in 2011 Chicago listed only one homicide as burglary as a motive with only 100 homicides due to burglary ever year nationwide. Don't believe me, look it up. You have 0 chance (or as close as a statics major can note) of being killed in burglary..
Those Thugs got what they deserved and coming back ? Really?
The story really uncovers the mentality of Criminals who think it is their legal right to break in and steal your belongings and threaten lives.
A Liberal would of offered them coffee and Sandwiches and helped them load up the van.
Really underlines the fact that trainer gun owners can make a difference. Now the tax payers do need to house these thugs for the next 10-20 years in State Prison.
Dumb question, but this incident made me think of this hypothetical.
The invaders are always by definition bad guys.
But suppose there's a situation where the homeowner is also a bad guy. Say on a drug deal gone bad or something like that.
I know that's not the situation here but just as a what if. Is the homeowner still entitled to take out the intruders?
Its call self defense and the Castle Law. Most trained gun owners have practiced and have extra Mags. If you own a Glock 19 you have Mags that have up to 14 shots. Plus the Glock is a fast accurate weapon.
For the Thugs , most of the time the first 2-3 quick shots will deter a thug. Most of the ,your criminal, do not want to stay around foe law enforcement. By time a citizen squeezes of the first round. (911 has been called and additional forces are in route (8-9 minutes)
Of course you would natural let in the crooks and give them your stull and take out one of your kids.
Its call self defense and the Castle Law. Most trained gun owners have practiced and have extra Mags. If you own a Glock 19 you have Mags that have up to 14 shots. Plus the Glock is a fast accurate weapon.
For the Thugs , most of the time the first 2-3 quick shots will deter a thug. Most of the ,your criminal, do not want to stay around foe law enforcement. By time a citizen squeezes of the first round. (911 has been called and additional forces are in route (8-9 minutes)
Of course you would natural let in the crooks and give them your stull and take out one of your kids.
I'm talking about a hypothetical where the homeowner is also a bad guy.
Say a thug is involved in a drug deal gone bad and the other parties come to his house to get the drugs, take the money, kill him, or some such thing.
If they try to bust in, does he also get the benefit of self defense and the Castle law?
I never had to carry more than 8 rounds in my Colt 1911 pistol or seven in my shotgun. They were adequate in an actual war so I consider them adequate for my home. I consider being alert, aware and armed to be the safest policy. If not actually safer it certainly feels better than counting on the instant arrival of the cops or the assailant's mercy.
I am amused by the "many, many shot" proponents of big magazines in defensive guns. I figure if I cannot stop the assault with seven or eight rounds I should hunker down and call for an airstrike or artillery.
All of these items happen far more often than a fatal home invasion (insurance is broad term, but almost every policy has broad protections that are used by most people from hail storms to backing into a tree with your Buick)
Fire by itself happens to 300 out of 100,000 households, significantly more than any kind of fatal home invasion.
Guns in the home are associated with higher risk for the people in the home (Suicide, Accident, or Domestic Abuse). .so its an idiotic thing to do to buy a gun "for protection" if chances are it will be used on you or your family first.
And purely from a no risk standpoint (hey lock up your guns so tightly you never get to use them in a home invasion). .
are you never walking drunk (pretty fatal) or crossing streets (pretty risk) or wearing a helmet at all times? seems idiotic to pay $350 to 500 for a gun to protect you from a 1 in 250k event if you won't even pay $300 for a backup camera on your car.
I remember a news story from several years ago in Chicago about a series of home invasion robberies. And the home invaders turned out to be...Chicago police. What do you do? Call the police? They're already there.
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