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Old 05-05-2015, 11:04 AM
 
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It's the same failed "Great Society" and "War on Poverty" rhetoric. Let's throw money at the problem and hope that it goes away. What it boils down to is raising taxes on the productive people and redistributing it to the people who don't care.
Funny whenever the government wages war on something , we end up with more of it
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Old 05-05-2015, 11:09 AM
 
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Job skills are earned, not inherited.



And why wouldn't they employ a qualified individual from the inner city?
Because they don't have 20 years to wait for the next generation who aren't all messed up in the head on drugs and whatever else they have going on.

They don't have the money for the multiple lawsuits they'll have going ALL THE TIME for racism allegations every time an employee is fired or disciplined.

"qualified individual from the inner city"

Sadly for America, those are few and far between. Very far between.
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Old 05-05-2015, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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really? show me!

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]According to conservatives on this board, there are no poor people in the US[/b], so it seems like the war on poverty is doing pretty well.
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Old 05-05-2015, 11:14 AM
 
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Why wouldn't that person show up dressed appropriately on time to do work? Why would they steal?

Do you honestly associate stealing with black people from the inner city?

Rabid right-wingers just can't help themselves. In the case of a qualified individual, any hiring discrimination on the basis of race is actually grounds for lawsuits.
And Rabid left wingers, and I think this is common knowledge do not live in the real world. They live in this fantasy Utopia where everyone is awesome and it's only because of the terrible old bigots who just won't give people a chance.

You try opening a business there and see what happens.

I remember back in the days when Honeywell was still one of the top companies in Minnesota they tried opening a manufacturing facility in the "hood" in St Paul. Good jobs, good benefits.

They invested millions on the plant. They shut it down within 2 years because of theft, fake worker's comp claims and in terrible productivity of the plant. They tried to do something nice and right and they lost millions because of it.

This is not something that can be done overnight. The culture has to be changed from within starting with the family. And end Welfare.
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Old 05-05-2015, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Youngstown, Oh.
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really? show me!
Where do America's "poor" stand in this scale of poverty

What Is Poverty in the United States Today?

Poverty, really?
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Old 05-05-2015, 12:29 PM
 
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Why wouldn't that person show up dressed appropriately on time to do work? Why would they steal?

Do you honestly associate stealing with black people from the inner city?

Rabid right-wingers just can't help themselves. In the case of a qualified individual, any hiring discrimination on the basis of race is actually grounds for lawsuits.
Since I don't live on the plant BLxspft, yes all those things I associate with blacks from the inner city. I've seen it, experienced it, regretted it. Until I see different, that's exactly what I am going to think.
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Old 05-05-2015, 12:51 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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It makes me sick that they think pre-k programs will solve it. These are educated people that come up with these ideas. It's sick
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Old 05-05-2015, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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It makes me sick that they think pre-k programs will solve it. These are educated people that come up with these ideas. It's sick
Those in power think throwing more money at a problem will "quiet them" because it surely won't fix any problems.

And to admit the truth is a bitter pill that no one wants to swallow.
So we all continue to live in denial.
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Old 05-05-2015, 01:03 PM
 
Location: TN/NC
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Investing in things which will be torn down at the next whim is senseless.
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Old 05-05-2015, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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The problem is that Baltimore was a decent city with a long history, colleges, industry, and jobs. The people who live there destroyed it. Investing will do nothing.
any inner city slum needs to invest, but how do you educate the parents to

1. Be good parents
2. Use condoms
3. invest in your own child, teach them morals and respect

you cannot invest in people that don't have some kind of moral respect for others? If the parents are drunks, the kid will grow up on the street

So, I'm asking not you, but everyone, what can we do about it...

this whole situation has put cops and cities on the defense, b/c they fear these criminals getting their way by rioting.....

that is not how you get things done....
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