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Old 05-04-2015, 12:20 PM
 
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Why can Asia, Hispanic and Black prefer to live in neighborhoods with "their people" but if Whites do, they are called racists?

Many communities in America are white minority, so we are an ethnic minority in many parts of the Country. Though City-Data is full of posters from an Asian, Hispanic or African American background asking what neighborhoods they should move to in a specific community so they can be in an area with lots of people like them. If a white person asked this question, even if it were in a town where whites are a minority, they would be called racist.

Why? And in the year 2015 is it all right for anyone to want to live in an area with a population dominated by their ethnic group?

 
Old 05-04-2015, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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The phrase you're looking for is "double standard." To be on the receiving end of it is part of that White Privilege thing you've been hearing so much about!
 
Old 05-04-2015, 12:49 PM
 
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The phrase you're looking for is "double standard." To be on the receiving end of it is part of that White Privilege thing you've been hearing so much about!
The privileged group now days are the Asians who get into the best schools, have the highest SAT scores, IQ's and the highest paid technology jobs. But they are moving into Asian Ghettos to be with their people and no one is calling them racist.
 
Old 05-04-2015, 04:43 PM
 
Location: New York NY
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Why can Asia, Hispanic and Black prefer to live in neighborhoods with "their people" but if Whites do, they are called racists?

Many communities in America are white minority, so we are an ethnic minority in many parts of the Country. Though City-Data is full of posters from an Asian, Hispanic or African American background asking what neighborhoods they should move to in a specific community so they can be in an area with lots of people like them. If a white person asked this question, even if it were in a town where whites are a minority, they would be called racist.

Why? And in the year 2015 is it all right for anyone to want to live in an area with a population dominated by their ethnic group?
I don't know where you're from, but you show a BIG misunderstanding of US history.

For most of our history white people have wanted to live in white neighborhoods specifically to get away from people of any other color, despite those other people's status, education, or employment. It was NOT a desire simply to live with people "like themselves," though many white folks to this day still labor under this delusion. It was a strong desire to not live with those people --black, Asian, and Latino -- that were considered inferior in every way, and that dislike was enforced both legally as well as through a variety of informal means through most of the 20th century. And in some areas it STILL plays out in informal ways.

Most people of color understand this and its why we take affront at white folks asking for white neighborhoods -- instead of just asking for nice neighborhoods or middle-class neighborhoods or convenient neighborhoods. It's because we know the white folks who prefer white neighborhoods have usually had an antipathy, or sometimes even a downright hatred, of any non-white people.

The country is increasingly non-white, so these folks will have fewer and fewer places to go. They will either adjust to America's demographic changes, or they won't and then they'll die. Good riddance.
 
Old 05-04-2015, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Sandpoint, Idaho
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Why can Asia, Hispanic and Black prefer to live in neighborhoods with "their people" but if Whites do, they are called racists?

Many communities in America are white minority, so we are an ethnic minority in many parts of the Country. Though City-Data is full of posters from an Asian, Hispanic or African American background asking what neighborhoods they should move to in a specific community so they can be in an area with lots of people like them. If a white person asked this question, even if it were in a town where whites are a minority, they would be called racist.

Why? And in the year 2015 is it all right for anyone to want to live in an area with a population dominated by their ethnic group?
I ignore media. What I care about is living in a safe, respectful, mindful and friendly community. Of my immediate neighbors I have good friends, hand-wavers, hippies, those that keep to themselves, and cranky/nosy seniors. Race? Who cares. Individuals are all that matter.

S.
 
Old 05-04-2015, 11:01 PM
 
Location: 53179
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Who cares what people think. I just like to live in a very safe family friendly neighborhood. If that means majority white then that's fine.
 
Old 05-05-2015, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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There is a double standard out there where white people can't seem to do anything right without being criticized.
I remember the days when most cities had their China towns, little Italy 's etc.. they still do but the people living in them are much more diverse now.

When you think about it why would a white woman want to live in a black community and then have to travel across town to have her hair done? The same goes for a black woman.
People like to be with their people at the end of the day.

My wife, before I met her, lived and worked in Tennessee. The company had a big cafeteria and at lunch there was a divided group of black people and white people. During the work day everyone worked together but in their own time they wanted to be with people like them.

There is a perception that the white man has kept other races down despite their being a black man in the white house. The subject of race has been a very hot topic lately and many point the accusing finger at white people as the cause of all oppression. White people are being scrutinized and accused so they are under the microscope.
If whites choose to live in a community together it's not because they want to live amongst their peers but it must be because of some racist notion.

The so called "White Privilege" is slowly being turned into "white shame"
 
Old 05-05-2015, 08:05 AM
 
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There is a double standard out there where white people can't seem to do anything right without being criticized.
I remember the days when most cities had their China towns, little Italy 's etc.. they still do but the people living in them are much more diverse now.

When you think about it why would a white woman want to live in a black community and then have to travel across town to have her hair done? The same goes for a black woman.
People like to be with their people at the end of the day.

My wife, before I met her, lived and worked in Tennessee. The company had a big cafeteria and at lunch there was a divided group of black people and white people. During the work day everyone worked together but in their own time they wanted to be with people like them.

There is a perception that the white man has kept other races down despite their being a black man in the white house. The subject of race has been a very hot topic lately and many point the accusing finger at white people as the cause of all oppression. White people are being scrutinized and accused so they are under the microscope.
If whites choose to live in a community together it's not because they want to live amongst their peers but it must be because of some racist notion.

The so called "White Privilege" is slowly being turned into "white shame"

Can't rep ya just yet, so you'll have to settle for a .
 
Old 05-05-2015, 08:09 AM
 
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So what I am reading so far is that it is OK for Asians, Blacks and Hispanics to want to live in neighborhoods with lots of their people but if a white person said that he/she would be called racist due to white guilt and their great grandfather may have been racist and held minorities down 75 years ago.
 
Old 05-05-2015, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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Prior to WW I, most blacks in the US lived in the South, specifically the rural South. There were only small numbers of black people living in the North, and even less in the West. Beginning during WW I and continuing to about 1970 or so, millions of blacks moved to cities in the Northeast, the Midwest, and the Far West. This was called "The Great Migration", and it permanently changed American cities, just as previous waves of migration from Europe by the Irish, the Germans, Scandanavians, Poles, Russian Jews, Italians, etc changed earlier American societies.

Prior to WW II, ethnicity ruled in most northern and midwestern cities and even in small towns. Italians clumped together. Poles clumped together. So did the Irish. They had their own neighborhoods, their own churches/synagogues, schools, newspapers, food stores, etc -- all catering to their ethnic identities. White Americans whose families had been in the US for generations disliked these "foreign invaders" as much as idiot American bigots dislike Blacks and Latinos today.

Whether they were European immigrants or African American migrants, they were forced to live in the crappiest housing in American cities because that's all they could afford at first. Many also liked to be near people from "back home", whether that was South Carolina or southern Italy.

However, some of these people did prosper and get ahead, especially in the second and third generations. Usually, the Europeans could move to better housing as their finances improved, but Blacks weren't able to because of blatant discrimination in real estate transactions. No matter how rich blacks were, they were often forced to live in the same poor neighborhoods because they weren't allowed to buy homes elsewhere. When Puerto Ricans and Mexicans started moving to the US, they encountered many of the same problems as Blacks.

So, OP, the reason it's not "ok" for "white people" to want "to live with their own kind" is because they have a long history of forcing people of color "to live with their own kind" whether they wanted to do so or not, and it wasn't 75 years ago. It goes on today whenever and where ever bigots think they can get away with it. It's just much more subtle today -- or maybe not. That you identify so strongly with "white" suggests that you are at least as racist as your great grandfather, and possibly more so.
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