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A lot of this problem could be solved by administering the TOEFL to all illegal immigrants and deporting those who don't score highly. Then, the slow learners and those who don't assimilate to American culture very well leave while those who have either assimilated very well or are quick learners stay.
We solve the problem of welfare (by deporting most of those destined to be poor) while also bringing in more young workers who are fairly smart and can speak the language of industry here at a time when we really need them.
Include a $5,000 penalty fee to gain legal status in the U.S. for those who score highly enough. This takes care of the fine for doing something that was illegal, pays for all costs of the program, and with the remainder reduces our national deficit.
A lot of this problem could be solved by administering the TOEFL to all illegal immigrants and deporting those who don't score highly. Then, the slow learners and those who don't assimilate to American culture very well leave while those who have either assimilated very well or are quick learners stay.
We solve the problem of welfare (by deporting most of those destined to be poor) while also bringing in more young workers who are fairly smart and can speak the language of industry here at a time when we really need them.
Include a $5,000 penalty fee to stay in the U.S. for those who score highly enough. This takes care of the fine for doing something that was illegal, pays for all costs of the program, and further makes these people profitable to our economy instead of a net loss.
You can deport as many as you want but they will keep coming back when they can earn much more money here than they can at home.
Here's my question.. How do we offer a path to citizenship for the people who are here, without encouraging more to enter the country illegally AND without 'opening the floodgates'?
I tend to agree that there are some good undocumented/illegal immigrants that are here now.. Some by no fault of their own.. Parents brought them when they were 3 years old, and now they are 23. I have a hard time saying that person did something illegal. Their parents did, but we don't convict for sins of the parent.
Those people should have some kind of path to citizenship available.. But.. How do you prove that you've been here since you were 3?
I don't have a problem with easing immigration requirements, and allowing more people in.. But we can't just blanket say "Everyone can come, and even if you sneak in, we'll let you stay"..
And there does have to be some form of penalty. Whether it was with great intentions or whatever.. They still broke the law. No opinion on what that penalty is or how severe it should be (monitarily, of course).. But there has to be SOME penalty.
The whole E-Verify thing.. Problem there is that people have figured out how to game that system as well. They'll use a SSN from someone who is dead, or a 2 year old or something.
I identify as republican.. I disagree with blanket amnesty, but I'm also not in the 'shut down the borders, don't allow anyone in' camp, either.
If it works "very well", how come millions of illegals are able to work?
Because e-Verify isn't the law yet. It's strictly voluntary for the most part so far.
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Originally Posted by Labonte18
The whole E-Verify thing.. Problem there is that people have figured out how to game that system as well. They'll use a SSN from someone who is dead, or a 2 year old or something.
Really simple software can tie SSNs to obituaries and/or birthdates if e-Verify ever becomes law.
Because e-Verify isn't the law yet. It's strictly voluntary for the most part so far.
Really simple software can tie SSNs to obituaries and/or birthdates if e-Verify ever becomes law.
Then make it the law with draconian penalties for those who hire illegals. Until the jobs dry up there will be illegal immigration. Remove the jobs and the problem will largely solve itself.
Does anyone really believe that tired old number of 11,000,000 is an accurate number ? More like 20,000,000 or more. Then we have the anchor babies in the family. Plus allowing people that are here to bring in unlimited family members, regardless of how nebulous the connection....I've seen it. The Indians bring in the cousins, in-laws, etc, etc.......
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