Social Democratic party wins Provincial election in Canada (Representatives, multiculturalism, radical)
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Other than their stance on LGBT and Multiculturalism everything else sounds good....maybe its Social Democracy's time in America as well...we have Bernie Sanders running.
Other than their stance on LGBT and Multiculturalism everything else sounds good....maybe its Social Democracy's time in America as well...we have Bernie Sanders running.
That was EXACTLY my thought too. A lot of Canadians are posting about how surprised they were. Bernie Sanders is going to be a LOT more competitive then people think at this early stage. Competitive enough to win is harder to say.....but if he does we could see a new type of politician start showing up.
Alberta is an oil rich cowboy culture province. This is the equivalent of Bernie Sanders becoming governor of Texas and the Green party decimating the Texas GOP. Like Texas, Alberta is booming and has a huge influx of people from the more liberal regions of the country. The urban libs are finally a large enough voting block to counter the more rural conservatives and rednecks.
Other than their stance on LGBT and Multiculturalism everything else sounds good....maybe its Social Democracy's time in America as well...we have Bernie Sanders running.
social democracy is a self-proclaimed international revolutionary socialist party, aiming to abolish capitalism by any means necessary -- including the ballot box.
Socialism from Below?
Thus electioneering results in the fight being carried out by means of leaders, in which the masses can play but a minor role. In practice it means a handful of individuals, the representatives, carry on the struggle on behalf of the masses. It can only lead to the illusion that others can do the fighting for us - regardless of the wishes of the leaders in question. Once radicals are elected the whole focal point of struggle changes. Rather than direct struggle against the state and the boss, this is no longer needed as the elected representatives will act or people will think they will act and so not act themselves. They have elected someone to fight for them and so do not need to fight themselves. If radicals are elected to fight for people, can we be surprised if people do not act themselves? The notion that reforms (indeed, the revolution) would be the work of leaders acting on behalf of the masses soon followed, with the masses reduced to voters and followers, not active participants in the struggle.
Moreover, socialist support for electioneering is somewhat at odds with their claims of being in favour of collective, mass action. There is nothing more isolated, atomised and individualistic than voting. It is the total opposite of collective struggle. The individual is alone before, during and after the act of voting. Unlike direct action, which, by its very nature, throws up new forms of organisation in order to manage and co-ordinate the struggle, voting creates no alternative organs of working class self-management. Nor can it. It is not based on, nor does it create, collective action or organisation. Given that socialists often slander anarchists as "individualists" the irony is delicious!
you do realize that socialism, social democracy, communism, nazisism, and fascism are all part of the same family.
look at the kinship between communism, fascism, and liberalism. All derive from the same tradition that goes back to the Jacobins of the French Revolution. His revised political spectrum would focus on the role of the state and go from libertarianism to conservatism to fascism in its many guises – American, Italian, German, Russian, Chinese, Cuban, and so on.
As this listing suggests, fascism is flexible; different iterations differ in specifics but they share "emotional or instinctual impulses." Mussolini tweaked the socialist agenda to emphasize the state; Lenin made workers the vanguard party; Hitler added race. If the German version was militaristic, the American one which could be called liberal fascism is nearly pacifist.
The Social Democrats, USA is the same Socialist Party of America as is has been since August 1, 1901, an is LEFT WING. Social Democratic Party was originally founded June 11, 1898 as a direct political offshoot of the communalist Social Democracy of America (Labor Day Message of 1897 by Eugene Victor Debs). After a merger with the Socialist Party of America (1901) the party remained essentially the same although the named varied a few times. From 1900 (before its formal union) to 1912, the Socialist Party ran Eugene Debs for President at each election. The best showing ever for a Socialist ticket was in 1912, when Debs gained 901,551 total votes, or 6% of the popular vote. we are the party of Eugene Debs, Mother Jones, Helen Keller, Carl Sandburg, Norman Thomas, A. Philip Randolph, Bayard Rustin.
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senator bernie sanders of vermont (d/l/s) (democrat/ liberal/ SOCIALIST)
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FDR gave a speech in Troy, NY, 3 March 1912, in which he laid out his philosophy - he(FDR) placed the "liberty of the community" over "the liberty of the individual."
FDR was a fascist
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"If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the government's ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees." bill clinton
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"A Marxist/Fascist/Liberal begins with his prime truth that all evils are caused by the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism, then into the third stage of reorganization into a new social order of socialism, and finally the last stage -- the political paradise of communism." Saul Alinsky
socialism, democratic socialism, fascism, nasism, liberalism...all BIG POWERFUL GOVERNMENT, all ANTI-INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM
no thanks! we have enough political correctness and government intrusion in our lives.
Time to create more jobs and make people self sufficient and dependant on the government to do
everything for them.
Other than their stance on LGBT and Multiculturalism everything else sounds good....maybe its Social Democracy's time in America as well...we have Bernie Sanders running.
social democracy is a self-proclaimed international revolutionary socialist party, aiming to abolish capitalism by any means necessary -- including the ballot box.
Socialism from Below?
Thus electioneering results in the fight being carried out by means of leaders, in which the masses can play but a minor role. In practice it means a handful of individuals, the representatives, carry on the struggle on behalf of the masses. It can only lead to the illusion that others can do the fighting for us - regardless of the wishes of the leaders in question. Once radicals are elected the whole focal point of struggle changes. Rather than direct struggle against the state and the boss, this is no longer needed as the elected representatives will act or people will think they will act and so not act themselves. They have elected someone to fight for them and so do not need to fight themselves. If radicals are elected to fight for people, can we be surprised if people do not act themselves? The notion that reforms (indeed, the revolution) would be the work of leaders acting on behalf of the masses soon followed, with the masses reduced to voters and followers, not active participants in the struggle.
Moreover, socialist support for electioneering is somewhat at odds with their claims of being in favour of collective, mass action. There is nothing more isolated, atomised and individualistic than voting. It is the total opposite of collective struggle. The individual is alone before, during and after the act of voting. Unlike direct action, which, by its very nature, throws up new forms of organisation in order to manage and co-ordinate the struggle, voting creates no alternative organs of working class self-management. Nor can it. It is not based on, nor does it create, collective action or organisation. Given that socialists often slander anarchists as "individualists" the irony is delicious!
you do realize that socialism, social democracy, communism, nazisism, and fascism are all part of the same family.
look at the kinship between communism, fascism, and liberalism. All derive from the same tradition that goes back to the Jacobins of the French Revolution. His revised political spectrum would focus on the role of the state and go from libertarianism to conservatism to fascism in its many guises – American, Italian, German, Russian, Chinese, Cuban, and so on.
As this listing suggests, fascism is flexible; different iterations differ in specifics but they share "emotional or instinctual impulses." Mussolini tweaked the socialist agenda to emphasize the state; Lenin made workers the vanguard party; Hitler added race. If the German version was militaristic, the American one which could be called liberal fascism is nearly pacifist.
The Social Democrats, USA is the same Socialist Party of America as is has been since August 1, 1901, an is LEFT WING. Social Democratic Party was originally founded June 11, 1898 as a direct political offshoot of the communalist Social Democracy of America (Labor Day Message of 1897 by Eugene Victor Debs). After a merger with the Socialist Party of America (1901) the party remained essentially the same although the named varied a few times. From 1900 (before its formal union) to 1912, the Socialist Party ran Eugene Debs for President at each election. The best showing ever for a Socialist ticket was in 1912, when Debs gained 901,551 total votes, or 6% of the popular vote. we are the party of Eugene Debs, Mother Jones, Helen Keller, Carl Sandburg, Norman Thomas, A. Philip Randolph, Bayard Rustin.
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senator bernie sanders of vermont (d/l/s) (democrat/ liberal/ SOCIALIST)
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FDR was a fascist
socialism, democratic socialism, fascism, nasism, liberalism...all BIG POWERFUL GOVERNMENT, all ANTI-INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM
Which blog or email did you copy and paste this GOP propaganda crap from?
The NDP is a good deal. We need to follow her proposition of eliminating both union and corporate donations to political parties.
Agree completely! I am pro union but do not want politicians influenced by donations from them.
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Originally Posted by workingclasshero
social democracy is a self-proclaimed international revolutionary socialist party, aiming to abolish capitalism by any means necessary -- including the ballot box.
Socialism from Below?
Thus electioneering results in the fight being carried out by means of leaders, in which the masses can play but a minor role. In practice it means a handful of individuals, the representatives, carry on the struggle on behalf of the masses. It can only lead to the illusion that others can do the fighting for us - regardless of the wishes of the leaders in question. Once radicals are elected the whole focal point of struggle changes. Rather than direct struggle against the state and the boss, this is no longer needed as the elected representatives will act or people will think they will act and so not act themselves. They have elected someone to fight for them and so do not need to fight themselves. If radicals are elected to fight for people, can we be surprised if people do not act themselves? The notion that reforms (indeed, the revolution) would be the work of leaders acting on behalf of the masses soon followed, with the masses reduced to voters and followers, not active participants in the struggle.
Moreover, socialist support for electioneering is somewhat at odds with their claims of being in favour of collective, mass action. There is nothing more isolated, atomised and individualistic than voting. It is the total opposite of collective struggle. The individual is alone before, during and after the act of voting. Unlike direct action, which, by its very nature, throws up new forms of organisation in order to manage and co-ordinate the struggle, voting creates no alternative organs of working class self-management. Nor can it. It is not based on, nor does it create, collective action or organisation. Given that socialists often slander anarchists as "individualists" the irony is delicious!
you do realize that socialism, social democracy, communism, nazisism, and fascism are all part of the same family.
look at the kinship between communism, fascism, and liberalism. All derive from the same tradition that goes back to the Jacobins of the French Revolution. His revised political spectrum would focus on the role of the state and go from libertarianism to conservatism to fascism in its many guises – American, Italian, German, Russian, Chinese, Cuban, and so on.
As this listing suggests, fascism is flexible; different iterations differ in specifics but they share "emotional or instinctual impulses." Mussolini tweaked the socialist agenda to emphasize the state; Lenin made workers the vanguard party; Hitler added race. If the German version was militaristic, the American one which could be called liberal fascism is nearly pacifist.
The Social Democrats, USA is the same Socialist Party of America as is has been since August 1, 1901, an is LEFT WING. Social Democratic Party was originally founded June 11, 1898 as a direct political offshoot of the communalist Social Democracy of America (Labor Day Message of 1897 by Eugene Victor Debs). After a merger with the Socialist Party of America (1901) the party remained essentially the same although the named varied a few times. From 1900 (before its formal union) to 1912, the Socialist Party ran Eugene Debs for President at each election. The best showing ever for a Socialist ticket was in 1912, when Debs gained 901,551 total votes, or 6% of the popular vote. we are the party of Eugene Debs, Mother Jones, Helen Keller, Carl Sandburg, Norman Thomas, A. Philip Randolph, Bayard Rustin.
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senator bernie sanders of vermont (d/l/s) (democrat/ liberal/ SOCIALIST)
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FDR was a fascist
socialism, democratic socialism, fascism, nasism, liberalism...all BIG POWERFUL GOVERNMENT, all ANTI-INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM
FDR was a great man. He realized as a civilized nation we must band together and fight as one vs everyone for themselves. A collective society can accomplish much TOGETHER vs 1 individual hoarding power,money etc for themselves.
no thanks! we have enough political correctness and government intrusion in our lives.
Time to create more jobs and make people self sufficient and dependant on the government to do
everything for them.
Which is why we need the NDP....politicians are being bought by big companies and are doing their bidding instead of working for the workers and their rights. Hopefully NDP changes that by eliminating the HORRID decision here to make companies people. I look forward to what the NDP does in Canada.
I am certainly for Bernie Sanders and was so excited when I heard that he was running, but wish I had heard him say it himself. Maybe I can find it online. We need social democratic policies in America.
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