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Obviously, it's is discussed 24/7 in this country. You can get a degree in it.
When it comes to Islam and 1400 years of uninterrupted Slavery, crickets. From Mohammad to the Ottomans, to Current Slavery by Muslims in Africa to ISIS and the Boka Haram you have people referencing Mohammad and the Quran to justify it, If you can find Christian's or any other religious group that currently enslave others across scores of countries to the extent of Radical Islam by all means list them.
Take a look attached "walk Free" map of where slavery occurs today. Other than India, Muslim dominated countries dominate this problem.
Christianity and Judaism have been allowing and promoting slavery for quite a bit longer.
If you want to argue Islam is somehow morally corrupt and evil religion based on events happening in modern time, then that's fine.I personally don't see much of a different between Christianity and Islam when you take the big picture view. Christianity and Islam have been going back and forth between leading the world in culture and advancement and spreading pain and misery. If it makes you feel superior today that Islam is being used to recruit that poor and disfranchised youth that the West had a big hand in molding than that's on you.
If it were up to me I'd ship every last one of them back home where they could enjoy wife beating, hanging gays from lamp posts after church and don't forget the family honor killings.
The Irish, Chinese, Italians, Poles,..., Latinos have no place in America!
Every new wave of immigration into the US has faced nativism.
Why do we not hear vociferous opposition from peaceful Muslims about the atrocities committed by isis and their likes?
Where are the peaceful Muslim coalitions which are taking a stand against these radicalized monsters?
I hope to be completely wrong, but as a non-religious outsider, it seems like peaceful Muslims are staying very quiet and turning a blind eye to the ongoing isis, et al, issue.
Not really. It just doesn't get the same attentions as terrorist attacks.
Similar to the Westboro Baptists---their activities get a lot of press. How much coverage do Christians who denounce that branch of their religion receive?
Don't see Christians killing people because the are provoked by Satanists? Islam has no place in the Western World. It should remain the Middle East.
I still have to laugh at Obama calling ISIS the JV Team. This proves he has and still doesn't have a clue about what the hell is going on outside our boarders.
If you can't argue honestly, please go elsewhere. The argument was never that it was a significant part of American History. Why do you feel this need to exaggerate to try and make a point?
So they weren't here or they were only here in small percentages? It can't be both.
The argument that there were Muslim slaves in the Americas is completely false. Slaves were brought from East Africa where Islam is not even found, nor has it been practiced EVER in that part of Africa.
The small number of Middle Eastern immigrants that came after the 1900's were obviously not slaves. I am arguing against the historical revisionism that has been published in WaPo recently, and probably other MSM sources, that said there were Muslim slaves here in the Americas, which would infer that they had a significant presence in our nation's history. This is politically motivated historical revisionism.
I don't have the statistics only that after 1967 when the immigration laws changed, that's when there began to be a significant number of Muslims in the country. Pre-1967 you could compare Muslim presence in the SUA with Jain or Zoroastrian presence in the USA. How significant do you think those two religions have been to American history? Not significant at all. The number of Muslims in the country before 1967 was so small that their impact on society was zilch.
Our country has always been Judeo-Christian. It's only been since the 1960's that the number of other religions present began to have any kind of impact on our society at all.
Then explain the great Timbuktu, Mali and its historical prominence in the Islamic world.
Voodoo is from Haiti
Santeria comes from Cuba, the Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico.
Candomble in Brazil.
Shango in Trinidad.
Hoodoo is from the U.S. and not as prominent.
However, the presence of West African Muslims is documented, not just the U.S. either. There were 3 distinct African Muslim settlements in my country of descent during the days of slavery and beyond.
This shows your ignorance about American and Caribbean history, and the history of the slave trade! Do you not realize that blacks were not indigenous to the Americas?! If you think that the original inhabitants of the Caribbean were black, you are very, very ignorant about history.
All the blacks who were brought to the Caribbean and the Americas (In ALL the countries you mentioned) were brought as slaves from West Africa. Do you not know this? Their African religion was Yoruba, and they practiced it in secret when they were made to be slaves in the Caribbean and America. ALL the religions you mentioned have roots in West Africa. They stem from the African religion Yoruba.
None of the descendents of the slaves who live in the Caribbean or the Americas practice Islam today. That makes it extremely obvious that they were never Muslim slaves in the first place!
And Timbuktu, which is in Mali, is on the edge of the Sahara desert. It's not in the part of Africa where the slaves were from, which was the South West coast of Africa. Timbuktu is hundreds of miles from the coast and was a Muslim trade post. It was NOT where slaves were from
There are a significant number of Muslims living in the neighborhoods west of my neighborhood. There are even two mosques, halal restaurants and groceries, and even an "Islamic Fashions" dress shop within a mile. The Muslims are mostly African immigrants, but a few are from the Arabian peninsula or American converts. They are for the most part law abiding residents who keep a rather low profile. Interestingly the Hindu immigrants from India are more conspicuous and have an annual "Triumphal Procession Of The Chariots" through the center of town with elaborate gilded vehicles and depiction of all the deities of the Hindu pantheon. At another time of the year there is an Indian folklore festival on the river with singing, dancing, food vendors, etc.
The argument that there were Muslim slaves in the Americas is completely false. Slaves were brought from East Africa where Islam is not even found, nor has it been practiced EVER in that part of Africa.
The small number of Middle Eastern immigrants that came after the 1900's were obviously not slaves. I am arguing against the historical revisionism that has been published in WaPo recently, and probably other MSM sources, that said there were Muslim slaves here in the Americas, which would infer that they had a significant presence in our nation's history. This is politically motivated historical revisionism.
I don't have the statistics only that after 1967 when the immigration laws changed, that's when there began to be a significant number of Muslims in the country. Pre-1967 you could compare Muslim presence in the SUA with Jain or Zoroastrian presence in the USA. How significant do you think those two religions have been to American history? Not significant at all. The number of Muslims in the country before 1967 was so small that their impact on society was zilch.
Our country has always been Judeo-Christian. It's only been since the 1960's that the number of other religions present began to have any kind of impact on our society at all.
The argument isn't false simply because you say so.
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