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You're falling for the "it's not me, it's him" trick.
The problem isn't either party, it's both parties. It's big government.
If you don't like our debt problem, the first thing to do is to support a balanced budget amendment.
AWWE Pedro..I don't have to support, vote for and placate either party..All I am saying is simply by watching the show just south of me..I can see plain as day who supports what and why..and it has nothing to do with small Government..It's all about CONTROL and Greedy folks who support politicians who favor their particular wants...LESS TAX..Less Regulation..Less expenditures for those who who actually need it....you know "THE TAKERS"
I'm sorry..this "Trickle Down" doesn't work and hasn't worked for decades..if ever..It's again..going back to same old confabulations and repeating them JUST doesn't make it so :roll eyes:
So deny what actually raised the debt to begin with is once again the denials that plagues extreme right folk...Yike's they are still denying Climate change/Global warming regardless of the evidence..even Christie agree's it's true..BUT I digress
Doesn't need or want? What does the military want to reject?
USAF wants to get rid of the A10 because liberals slashed the budget. Stupid thinking.
Leave the military alone and cut entitlements to deadbeats.
Typical right wing "pork for me but for thee" non-thinking response.
How about closing down the M1A2 plant in Lima? The Army flat out states that it has plenty of them and plenty of parts, yet it continues to churn out more to go sit in warehouses.
Why? Because people in John Boehner's district work there and he needs to keep to makework program going.
If we're going to cut, how about we start with the completely pointless things? Or we could at least spend the money on something useful instead of cranking out yet more surplus parts to go sit in storage.
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The military needs to be drastically reduced. Why do we need 130 foreign bases? Though the welfare system needs to be reformed and rethought, we NEED to rethink our foreign policy and our Defense budget. We could probably cut our Defense budget by 25-30% without even feeling it. We make planes and weapons that even the military commanders say are worthless yet those are pork barrel projects for Senators and Congressmen like Lindsey Graham so they keep on making them. The War on Terror has cost over $1 trillion, thousands of American lives, tens of thousands Americans wounded, and we are less free and less safe because of it.
The insanity of our foreign policy is that creates more enemies than we could ever hope of killing. ISIS wouldn't exist if we hadn't invaded Iraq. If the neocons get their way and we invade Syria the black flag of ISIS will fly over Damascus shortly thereafter. As Otto von Bismarck said, "preemptive war is liking committing suicide for fear of death." Over the past decade and a half our foreign policy has been suicidal. We absolutely cannot continue to police the world and hope to remain strong and free.
Another institution that needs to be reformed and rethought entirely is the American health care system and our insurance system. Americans per capita outspend almost every other nation on Earth in healthcare and this was true even before the ACA. We would save a lot of money if we ever had the common sense to take a step back and discover that the health care system in this country is completely rigged to benefit insurance companies, Big Pharma, and health care executives. Obamacare is a failure because it didn't rethink the system whatsoever, it doubled down on it. It was essentially a subsidy to the health insurance companies, a giant transfer of wealth.
You see this is another reason I've grown weary of hearing Republicans talk tough on welfare when they're more concerned with shaking down small time welfare cheats for a couple hundred bucks but they completely turn a blind eye to the hundreds of billions of dollars in corporate welfare. Where were Republican's so called "free market capitalist" principles in 2008 when they voted in lockstep to bail out "too big to fail" financial institutions? The bail outs, between Congress and the Fed, that went to the very same institutions who nearly torpedoed the entire global economic system is perhaps the largest welfare payment in the history of mankind. TRILLIONS of dollars were funneled into those organizations. President Bush summed up the Republican response, "I'm abandoning free market principles to save the free market." If a company is so large that them failing would ruin our economy that company should not exist. 6 financial institutions should not hold the equivalent of 61% of the U.S. GDP. Republicans will cry "SOCIALISM," but Teddy Roosevelt broke up the banks as a Republican. Not to mention the hundreds of billions of dollars we give every year in corporate subsidies and give backs to organizations worth billions.
So yeah one day I'll agree with the Republicans that we need to go after those small timers who have cheated the federal government out of perhaps a few grand. But not until we've abandoned our suicidal and expensive foreign policy and after we cut every single penny of corporate welfare, break up the banks, and stop bailing out giant corporations at the taxpayer's expense.
Why is it that Republicans constantly TALK about 'fiscal responsibility'. But when in power they're anything BUT fiscally responsible?
Discuss!
If that's a quote from Salon, I would suggest that they first learn the correct use of the apostrophe, and when they have that down, move on to fact checking issues.
All of Reagan's spending increases went into defense, as economist Steve Slivinski of Cato has shown. Domestic spending actually declined during his 2 terms. Only by 1 percent, but still he's the only prez going back to LBJ who had a negative sign in front of that number.
Reagan did break the bank on military spending but a)won the cold war thereby; b)revitalized the US military, which had fallen into such disrepute after Vietnam that Hasbro stopped selling GI Joe. They brought it back after Reagan took office.
My personal favorite example is W's launch two wars and pay for them with two tax cuts approach.
Gotta love that GOP Math!
This is another liberal meme endlessly repeated but fallacious. First of all Bush cut rates, not revenue. Revenue did not go down during the 2 Bush terms. It is revenue, not rates, that matter for deficits. Secondly, most Democrats, including Barack Obama, supported the Afghanistan war, so when they point a finger at Bush over that, there are three fingers pointing back at themselves.
Finally, the Iraq war accounted for only about 3% of federal spending while it lasted, To single it out as the cause of the deficit is like a guy with $200,000 in credit card debt blaming it all on his cell phone bill.
BOTH parties are totally sold out to special interests and could care less about what's good for the country.
We just get lip service at election time.
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This is another liberal meme endlessly repeated but fallacious. First of all Bush cut rates, not revenue. Revenue did not go down during the 2 Bush terms. It is revenue, not rates, that matter for deficits. Secondly, most Democrats, including Barack Obama, supported the Afghanistan war, so when they point a finger at Bush over that, there are three fingers pointing back at themselves.
Finally, the Iraq war accounted for only about 3% of federal spending while it lasted, To single it out as the cause of the deficit is like a guy with $200,000 in credit card debt blaming it all on his cell phone bill.
1) Tax receipts did fall. It took until 2006 for tax receipts to surpass 2000 levels.
2) True, it was only 3% if you only consider the supplemental bills used to finance immediate warfare and ignore the multi-trillion dollar long term cost.
1) Tax receipts did fall. It took until 2006 for tax receipts to surpass 2000 levels.
2) True, it was only 3% if you only consider the supplemental bills used to finance immediate warfare and ignore the multi-trillion dollar long term cost.
tax receipts fell because of the recession Clinton (dot-com) left bush
the bush tax cut 01/03 took effect in 02/04
and surpass 2000 in 2005 (not 06 as you said untruthfully)
Because unlike Democrats, when Republicans are in power they have their hands tied behind their back by the Democrat-media-labor machine such that if they cut even one nickel of profligate spending, they'll be subject to a Democrat-media-labor Blitzkrieg that makes the Invasion of Poland look like child's play. So rather than stir the pot, Republicans simply go along to get along. Next.
..and the democrat's answer is for the government to to raise taxes, increase the regulatory burden, and then we will have Nirvana.
Tell me, how does taking away the wealth from the people, and businesses and transferring it to the corrupt, wasteful slush funds of government, make the people wealthier, and businesses more profitable?
Better to tax than to borrow money and pass the debt on to our children.
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By the time he ran for re-election this November, Walker's tax cuts had helped create about a $1.8 billion budget shortfall projected through 2017. Now, Walker’s budget plan proposes to borrow money but shows no sign of raising taxes, which would conveniently let the presidential hopeful boast about how he kept taxes low across the state, even with a tight budget.
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