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Old 05-08-2015, 03:29 AM
 
Location: Purgatory
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There is no answer. For all the honest folks on welfare, there are just as many lazy slobs who refuse to work. If we took their benefits they would be out there robbing people and breaking into stores. They've grown up seeing family members using the system. It's too broken now I think. It will take major pain and suffering to change the cycle of dependence and apathy among a lot of these folks.
No there are not. Many less than you think try and make a career off welfare. Please check the stats on welfare fraud. It's not what most conservatives think it is.
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Old 05-08-2015, 04:25 AM
bUU
 
Location: Florida
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Right wingers cannot bring themselves to admit that there are a number of worthwhile human beings who received public assistance, and that public assistance often made the difference between those human beings living lives that a reasonable person would consider humane versus inhumane. Instead of providing solutions to the inhumane impact of the economic injustice that their right wing policies promulgate, they seek to divert attention away by myopically focusing on the money and ignoring the people. Right wing propaganda like this reveals the self-centered, money-grubbing callous disregard for those less fortunate that is the hallmark of right wing politics, and fosters a sociopathic intention to make the comfort and luxury of richer taxpayers more important than the basic human needs of those most vulnerable in society. The right wing's rationalizations for unequivocally morally bankrupt perspectives continues unabated.

Public assistance isn't "the" answer, but the fact that the right wing cannot bring itself to admit that the problem isn't the public assistance but rather its root cause, the economic injustice that prompts such a high and growing disparity between rich and poor, proves definitively the indefensible depths of depravity that right wing politics embodies.
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Old 05-08-2015, 05:46 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Right wingers cannot bring themselves to admit that there are a number of worthwhile human beings who received public assistance, and that public assistance often made the difference between those human beings living lives that a reasonable person would consider humane versus inhumane. Instead of providing solutions to the inhumane impact of the economic injustice that their right wing policies promulgate, they seek to divert attention away by myopically focusing on the money and ignoring the people. Right wing propaganda like this reveals the self-centered, money-grubbing callous disregard for those less fortunate that is the hallmark of right wing politics, and fosters a sociopathic intention to make the comfort and luxury of richer taxpayers more important than the basic human needs of those most vulnerable in society. The right wing's rationalizations for unequivocally morally bankrupt perspectives continues unabated.

Public assistance isn't "the" answer, but the fact that the right wing cannot bring itself to admit that the problem isn't the public assistance but rather its root cause, the economic injustice that prompts such a high and growing disparity between rich and poor, proves definitively the indefensible depths of depravity that right wing politics embodies.
Oh please. You liberals destroy things and then try to blame it on Republicans. Your tirades are boring and old. People are seeing through your lies, Goebbels.

Liberals want to hand out money, hand over fist, to every Tom, Dick, and Dbag who claims that they need it. What SHOULD have happened was that those people were given a requirement to obtain training for job skills to receive any benefits. But noooooooooo, liberals whine and make up excuses like, "how can they get there if they don't have a car", blah, blah, blah. Liberals do not give human beings enough credit. They treat people like they are newborns who can't even wipe their own butts. Instead of treating people like they are too helpless to help themselves, why don't you liberal whiners try boosting people up. Handing someone a few hundred dollars a month is a) not helpful and b) teaches them nothing. So spare me your tired rhetoric about how much liberals care. The hell they do.
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Old 05-08-2015, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Houston
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"My view is we had stumbled onto a major social change in the circumstances of post-modern society. It was not long ago in this past century that an anthropologist working in London – a very famous man at the time, Malinowski – postulated what he called the first rule of anthropology: That in all known societies, all male children have an acknowledged male parent. That's what we found out everywhere. ... And well, maybe it's not true anymore. Human societies change." Daniel Moynihan

Thank you, liberals.

Left wingers cannot bring themselves to admit that there are a number of human beings who received public assistance, and that public assistance often led those human beings to make less than optimal decisions which led to the rise of illegitimacy and the fruits of that rise in illegitimacy, crime and poverty.

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Much of the social history of the Western world over the past three decades
has involved replacing what worked with what sounded good. In area after area -
crime, education, housing, race relations - the situation has gotten worse after
the bright new theories were put into operation. The amazing thing is that this
history of failure and disaster has neither discouraged the social engineers nor
discredited them.
Thomas Sowell

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Old 05-08-2015, 06:18 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Where in the Constitution does it give anyone the authority to take our tax money and give it to others?

I thought taxes were to be used to run the Govt and fund the Military.
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Old 05-08-2015, 06:24 AM
 
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Since 1970, the U.S. has spent around 7.5 trillion dollars on welfare. So what, you ask, did we get for our $7.5 trillion? We got millions and millions of perpetual welfare leeches.
Actually the total exceeds over 20 trillion because "welfare" is just one program spending for the poor.

Add in rent assistance, state programs, and that and the cost is ridiculous given the poverty rate hasnt budged..
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Old 05-08-2015, 06:26 AM
 
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Right wingers cannot bring themselves to admit that there are a number of worthwhile human beings who received public assistance, and that public assistance often made the difference between those human beings living lives that a reasonable person would consider humane versus inhumane. Instead of providing solutions to the inhumane impact of the economic injustice that their right wing policies promulgate, they seek to divert attention away by myopically focusing on the money and ignoring the people. Right wing propaganda like this reveals the self-centered, money-grubbing callous disregard for those less fortunate that is the hallmark of right wing politics, and fosters a sociopathic intention to make the comfort and luxury of richer taxpayers more important than the basic human needs of those most vulnerable in society. The right wing's rationalizations for unequivocally morally bankrupt perspectives continues unabated.

Public assistance isn't "the" answer, but the fact that the right wing cannot bring itself to admit that the problem isn't the public assistance but rather its root cause, the economic injustice that prompts such a high and growing disparity between rich and poor, proves definitively the indefensible depths of depravity that right wing politics embodies.
yes yes yes, lefties somehow believe that if we right wingers want everyone to have jobs and the ability to prosper, that somehow we hate them and consider them not worthwhile as humans and should be killed.

And then you have the nerve to talk about morally bankrupt, the irony..
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Old 05-08-2015, 06:27 AM
 
Location: DC
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Poor children who at least have a roof over their heads and food in their bellies. Not too bad actually.
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Old 05-08-2015, 06:30 AM
 
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Since 1970, the U.S. has spent around 7.5 trillion dollars on welfare. So what, you ask, did we get for our $7.5 trillion? We got millions and millions of perpetual welfare leeches.

We could have had a nation of people that are much more self reliant and chopped $7.5 trillion right off the top of our enormous national debt. But no. We paid for these people to become dependent on handouts so that they can continue to be a drain on our resources.

Good jobs liberals.

40 Welfare Spending Chart United States 1970-2015 - Federal State Local Data
I am always asking the same thing about our war spending (what do we have to show for it):

6 trillion with an additional $490 billion in benefits owed to war veterans, expenses that could grow to more than $6 trillion over the next four decades on the Iraq War & Afghan Wars. So that's a total of 12 trillion.
Comparing 45 years of welfare (7.5) to that ^^^ makes it seem like a bargain.

Good Job, do nothing but spend, two political party system of America.

This isn't a liberal or conservative thing. It's an American addicted to war thing...
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Old 05-08-2015, 06:33 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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At least it's money spent feeding, clothing and housing poor Americans.

I'm sure people like the OP would never make a peep at the QUADRILLIONS spent on corporate welfare, war and foreign aid.

Some of you people act as if our currency is inherently valuable. It is not-human life is inherently valuable and good people will do what they can do to see it thrive and grow.

Some of you are slaves to our colluded and controlled economic system and have become inhuman. Yet crazily, these are sometimes the same people that claim to be so religious.
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