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Old 05-09-2015, 06:26 AM
 
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Well, he didn't think Obamacare was unconsitutional. He is a good guy in my book.
Actually that is NOT what he said.
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Old 05-09-2015, 08:05 AM
 
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You are assuming that the presidents who appointed those "disappointments" were really conservatives. Republican or Democrat, there is little difference. Democracy exists to inhibit change.
Again with that b.s.

The presidents that appointed them were DEFINITELY conservatives. You guys live these weak ass excuses.

Bush said explicitly that he wanted justices in the mold of Thomas and Scalia and assumed that Roberts fit that mold.

So stop lying.
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Old 05-09-2015, 08:10 AM
 
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Republican presidents have a special talent for nominating stealth liberal justices: Souter, O'Connor, Roberts and Kennedy come to mind.

But it should be remembered that most of these Republican presidents haven't been all that conservative -- not even George W. Bush. They have been moderates for the most part.
Bush was a hard right conservative...period, end of story.

All of this revisionism after the fact is a load of garbage. If he wasn't conservative, Republicans had a chance to reject him twice and select candidates that were even nuttier than he was and didn't.

So obviously, Bush was quite the conservative. Or at least he was certainly conservative ENOUGH!
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Old 05-09-2015, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Aztlan
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Again with that b.s.

The presidents that appointed them were DEFINITELY conservatives. You guys live these weak ass excuses.

Bush said explicitly that he wanted justices in the mold of Thomas and Scalia and assumed that Roberts fit that mold.

So stop lying.
Bush and Roberts are not conservatives. Thomas(who leftists deride as an "Uncle Tom") and Scalia are conservatives. At least Reagan and H.W Bush got two of their SC appointments right. O'Connor, Kennedy, and Souter were the unfortunate exceptions. Judge Bork ought to be on the bench instead of Kennedy.
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Old 05-09-2015, 11:20 AM
 
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The Supreme Court is an absolute JOKE and should not be a part of our
government anymore. It is thoroughly politicized. Moreover, its democratic
way of making decisions totally ruins its ability to judge, because it resembles
democracy ! How is a 5-4 decision capable of determining the truth ? Truth which
must be forced upon a disagreeing minority is not truth, it is democratic tyranny.
They are a democratic body of lawyers, not a true court. Everything falls down
on political lines with the majority once again subjugating the rights of the minority.
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Old 05-09-2015, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Aztlan
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The Supreme Court is an absolute JOKE and should not be a part of our
government anymore. It is thoroughly politicized. Moreover, its democratic
way of making decisions totally ruins its ability to judge, because it resembles
democracy ! How is a 5-4 decision capable of determining the truth ? Truth which
must be forced upon a disagreeing minority is not truth, it is democratic tyranny.
They are a democratic body of lawyers, not a true court. Everything falls down
on political lines with the majority once again subjugating the rights of the minority.
I agree. Noteworthy is that Brown vs. Board of Education was a judicial abomination because the "justices" relied on outside sources rather than actual facts presented during the hearing and Dred Scott vs. Sanford has never been overturned.
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Old 05-09-2015, 01:29 PM
 
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Bush and Roberts are not conservatives. Thomas(who leftists deride as an "Uncle Tom") and Scalia are conservatives. At least Reagan and H.W Bush got two of their SC appointments right. O'Connor, Kennedy, and Souter were the unfortunate exceptions. Judge Bork ought to be on the bench instead of Kennedy.
Bork...Nixon's hatchet man during Watergate?
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Old 05-09-2015, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Aztlan
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Bork...Nixon's hatchet man during Watergate?
Have you forgotten Hillary's role during Watergate?

http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/02/25...ob-former-boss
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Old 05-11-2015, 12:51 AM
 
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Bush was a hard right conservative...period, end of story.

All of this revisionism after the fact is a load of garbage. If he wasn't conservative, Republicans had a chance to reject him twice and select candidates that were even nuttier than he was and didn't.

So obviously, Bush was quite the conservative. Or at least he was certainly conservative ENOUGH!
Wrong.

He did nothing to rein in government spending, reinstated the JFK/Johnson/McNamara interventionist foreign policy, never said a thing against gays, showed the door to the religious right....I could go on. But why bother, you are so far off the mark it's not worth my time.
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Old 05-11-2015, 05:41 AM
 
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Well, he didn't think Obamacare was unconsitutional. He is a good guy in my book.
He rules by law and precedent... unlike all of the liberal supreme court judges who rule based on how they "feel" and the hardline Conservatives who vote on what they "believe"... if he rules by that rule, he will be moderate, right of center... which even liberals HATE...
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