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Taking Back the Radio started The Movement and not BlackLivesMatter.
That pisses me off to no end. Black people will blindly support something with "black" in it that does nothing, over a Revolutionary project that adds value to the community.
The site that helped blow up the Brown case gets hacked and blackballed while the Soros owned BlackLivesMatter slogan is installed and gets credit for starting 'a movement.' Which is really just a hashtag and a bunch of banners off of a 100k+ a year donation budget.
That's my black rant for the night/morning lol. Opinions??
I like this thread by the way. I love discussions on black culture especially when its done in a positive way.
Until we get control of the media and/or media narrative I don't think we have much control over "black culture" outside of what we can do locally and on a grassroots level. But organizing around something positive...
Excuuuuse me! Change black culture? That you very much but no thank you.
Black culture produced W.E.B Dubois, John Hope Franklin, Sylvester James Gates, J. Erenest Wilkins and Neal DeGrasse-Tyson.
Black culture produced W.C. Handy, Louis Armstrong, Edward Kennedy "Duke" Ellington, Miles Davis and Wynton Marsallis.
Black culture produced Countee Cullen, Langston Hughes, Zora Neale Thurston, James Baldwin, Maya Angelou and Toni Morrison.
Black culture produced, Jackie Robinson, Jessie Owens, Bill Russell, Mohammad Ali, Karem Abdul Jabbar, and Magic Johnson.
Black culture produced Josephine Baker, Martha Graham, Alvin Ailey, Judith Jamison and Misty Copeland.
Black culture produced, Thurgood Marshall, Daniel James Jr. Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice, and 88 African American men who gave full measure for this country and as a result have been recognized with the nation's highest honor...
Now if you want to do something about the culture of poverty, please be my guess but don't restrict you efforts to young African Americans, there are plenty of white, latino, Asian, and Native America who live in poverty, awash with drugs, violence, dysfunctional families, and myriad of other problems associated with low economic status.
So please leave black culture the buck alone!
Yeah, your culture is awesome. I see it everyday on my way out of the city. I wouldn't let my dog live in those neighborhoods.
I simply said ghetto culture is a product of survival in particular conditions or circumstances. Im referring to drug dealing, the underground economy, criminality, etc.
I said nothing about whether it is socially acceptable or conventional to engage in this particular lifestyle or if it improves or advances thier circumstances.
Not only did you fail to grasp my argument on a deeply critical level, but you also jumped to conclusions about an opinion that I did not affirm.
Having said that, there are people who their entire live thier entire lives in the underprivileged areas who don't commit crime, take pride in civic engagement, and lead by example motivating others around them to do better. So certainly not everyone who is a product of such an environment is held to the standards that you expect or accept things as is like the ghetto people you despise so much. THANK YOU.
And that culture often results in a very sad end for the persons who keep dwelling in it. This is about the culture and how counterproductive it is to leading a successful life. You are failing to grasp my point.
And I understand there are people coming from bad areas who are decent people, who do what they can not to get sucked into that culture. I'm aware of it.
One thing this thread teaches is this. Alot of people are not interested in the stories of Blacks who have accomplished alot of good things. Not just the famous ones, but the little known ones too. Put up stories about Blacks in hard circumstances actually rising and doing well for themselves, and there are people who treat those stories as "so what, Blacks are still no good". Good news can be found, if you are looking for it. Unfortunately, many people are more interested in complaining about Black people.
Many see the media reports of the Ferguson and Baltimore incidents and go along with the narrative that there is no progress - and that blacks are in the same boat that we have been in since the civil rights days.
I went to a graduation this weekend. My wife's best friend has four sons whom she is raising up on her own (+10 yrs. husband left). The oldest received his BA degree. The second oldest just completed his first year of college. The mom is tireless in her work, support for the kids' activities, church attendance, participation, prayer, etc. with not a lot of income. I don't know how she does it. I am pretty sure the boys are getting scholarship because of the family's low income.
The point is, this is how change occurs - one person at a time... one decision at a time to do the right thing day after day. It's a slow process. The boy that graduated has no personal burdens that will restrict him from getting the experience he needs to advance in his field.
It could be a high school athlete who gets a four year scholarship. The athlete may have no chance of becoming a pro athlete, but he can get a free college education and change his/her family tree for the better for future generations.
So - in this graduation season - if you are a black single parent that has kids that are graduating college - congratulations and thank you - you are THE change of black culture.
The so called black cultural explanation for racial inequities makes no sense to me.
Black Americans are Americans, in fact the average black American can trace their familial ties in America far longer than the vast majority of other Americans including white people.
The vast majority of whom families came well after this nation was founded.
So this idea that black Americans have some distinct culture separate from America is highly unlikely. In other words so called black culture is American culture.
That's the first hurdle that I have never seen cleared in getting from point A to B that black culture is bad and is to blame for racial disparities.
What do people mean by black culture?
The other big hurdle is this, because black Americans are Americans and have only lived in America for a very very long time, meaning black Americans are not foreigners entering America with their own customs, cultural traditions, etc.
This means the only way black Americans can have a different culture in America is if they are treated radically different and isolated from other Americans.
This is the big one, unless a person is saying that culture is some innate racial characteristic, the only way that black Americans can have a so called black culture that is bad and separate from American culture is if they are treated radically different from other Americans and societally isolated.
Which gets back to well how are black Americans treated radically different, which gets to racism, residential segregation, criminal justice discrimination, etc.
This is where the bad black cultural explanation fails.
You cannot blame bad black culture without admitting that black Americans are treated so radically different and live relatively isolated from other Americans that they formed their own destructive bad black culture that is separate from mainstream American culture.
Which still implicates American racism and discrimination against black Americans as the cause.
This is the only manner in which black Americans can have a distinctly "bad black culture" that is separate from America, unless one is going to argue culture is an innate racial characteristic.
Also, the idea that black people don't want their children to do well in school or graduate from college is a false viewpoint that has no basis in reality.
Taking Back the Radio started The Movement and not BlackLivesMatter.
That pisses me off to no end. Black people will blindly support something with "black" in it that does nothing, over a Revolutionary project that adds value to the community.
The site that helped blow up the Brown case gets hacked and blackballed while the Soros owned BlackLivesMatter slogan is installed and gets credit for starting 'a movement.' Which is really just a hashtag and a bunch of banners off of a 100k+ a year donation budget.
That's my black rant for the night/morning lol. Opinions??
I like this thread by the way. I love discussions on black culture especially when its done in a positive way.
I think you are on point with both of your posts. The Communist groups come in and use the situation for some quasi-recruitment & publicity purposes.
And yes - grassroots is key... along with a more solid family structure.
The so called black cultural explanation for racial inequities makes no sense to me.
Black Americans are Americans, in fact the average black American can trace their familial ties in America far longer than the vast majority of other Americans including white people.
The vast majority of whom families came well after this nation was founded.
So this idea that black Americans have some distinct culture separate from America is highly unlikely. In other words so called black culture is American culture.
That's the first hurdle that I have never seen cleared in getting from point A to B that black culture is bad and is to blame for racial disparities.
What do people mean by black culture?
The other big hurdle is this, because black Americans are Americans and have only lived in America for a very very long time, meaning black Americans are not foreigners entering America with their own customs, cultural traditions, etc.
This means the only way black Americans can have a different culture in America is if they are treated radically different and isolated from other Americans.
This is the big one, unless a person is saying that culture is some innate racial characteristic, the only way that black Americans can have a so called black culture that is bad and separate from American culture is if they are treated radically different from other Americans and societally isolated.
Which gets back to well how are black Americans treated radically different, which gets to racism, residential segregation, criminal justice discrimination, etc.
This is where the bad black cultural explanation fails.
You cannot blame bad black culture without admitting that black Americans are treated so radically different and live relatively isolated from other Americans that they formed their own destructive bad black culture that is separate from mainstream American culture.
Which still implicates American racism and discrimination against black Americans as the cause.
This is the only manner in which black Americans can have a distinctly "bad black culture" that is separate from America, unless one is going to argue culture is an innate racial characteristic.
Also, the idea that black people don't want their children to do well in school or graduate from college is a false viewpoint that had no basis in reality.
Black culture was made different than white American culture by the people who brought us here. We didn't get to this country with the same rights and privileges as whites. The manner in rights were made equal came in a different manner than whites. So all of those situations and struggles created a different existence for us than whites. So yes - it is a distinct culture whereas we continue to have to overcome others and ourselves as a group to change for the better where 70% of kids are not born out of wedlock, or that so many males on a percentage basis are locked up.
Also - nobody is saying that anyone wants their kids to bad in school, but life choices makes it so some people don't want to take care of their kids... or people's situations are so needy that they can't think straight... or there are too many kids being parented by an overwhelmed mother who is barely an adult herself with barely any resources.
I don't care what you want to do as long as it doesn't hurt anyone and doesn't cost me money. The problem is having children out of wedlock which may be cool to you but isn't to me. I don't want to pay for your choices and culture.
As a woman, Hillary is running for president and I certainly won't vote for her based on her gender, that would be ridiculous. Blacks should have seen past Obama's skin color instead of voting for him because "he's black". Now they can suffer the embarrassment to this country he turned out to be. If he represents how blacks think that doesn't say much and I was wrong about blacks who I thought wanted the same as whites.
this is why the super-militant black posters, the wcn's, and the white liberal call certain people racists
anybody thats ever read a post i made here knows i am not a fan of obama
your response to my post is rediculous
i'm pointing out a flaw in the OP's thread and trying to let them knoow how it will be perceived
then you post talking about children out of wedlock, obama, hillary etc... and you make *racial* remarks
"I don't want to pay for your choices and culture"
then you make additional comments about blacks
if you dont see how this comes off, then i dont know how else to explain it to you
dont nobody give a flying funk about obama, what the hell does he even have to do with anything
I think you are on point with both of your posts. The Communist groups come in and use the situation for some quasi-recruitment & publicity purposes.
And yes - grassroots is key... along with a more solid family structure.
Now days , even White people having kids while unmarried.
Birth Control is needed to focus on.
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